RE: Why is Jesus in third place when he deserves first?
September 20, 2020 at 5:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2020 at 5:37 pm by GrandizerII.)
(September 20, 2020 at 5:31 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:(September 20, 2020 at 5:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There are no ‘places’. The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three aspects of the same Being. It’s not even a case of split personalities, as some have argued. It’s three parts of one personality. You can have athletic Joe, contemplative Joe, and funny Joe, but there’s still only Joe.
That’s the Catholic answer. The atheist answer is, ‘THIS is what concerns you about Christianity? Seriously?’
Boru
When I was a religious person I thought of the three aspects of God as universal and expressive of the organization of reality. The spirit or father is the thingness of a thing like the kernel of the thing, whereas the holy ghost is the energetic essence or astral part (I was a dualist of course), Then the son was the material. With this model all the things are concurrent and equally important within the triune being. This jived with my idea that we were constructed in the image of god having spirit, soul, and body; although so do rocks, trees, bees, and bugs.
This would be deemed a heresy according to mainstream Trinitarian Christianity.

Try to understand this doctrine as best as possible (it's impossible to perfectly understand it, lol):
Trinity:
Father is fully God. Son is fully God (and also fully human). Holy Spirit is fully God. Each is considered a Person that is fully God and one and the same God, but each Person is distinct from one another.
Ontologically, they are equal. It's the same Being. Economically or in terms of roles, there starts to be some differences in ranking or roles or function or whatever, depending on the specific variation of the doctrine.
One of the key dividers theologically between Catholics and Orthodox is whether the Holy Spirit came forth from the Father through the Son or from both the Father and the Son. Wrap your heads around that.