RE: Question about "faith"
September 21, 2020 at 7:44 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2020 at 7:46 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 21, 2020 at 7:37 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(September 21, 2020 at 7:10 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Please show how you can do the same thing with your god? Show them how trusting that the chair will hold them up, is even in the same ballpark as trusting that your god exists.
When tackattack says that he has faith of this kind, he's talking about his own mental disposition. He trusts God in the way he trusts a good chair. This is what is happening in his mind.
To say that he can't prove the existence of God to your satisfaction doesn't change what his mental disposition is.
You no doubt believe that he shouldn't trust in God the way he trusts in a chair, but you can't say the trust is different. He knows what's happening in his mind, and you don't.
I completely understand his thought process (his own mental disposition) as you describe. I used to have the same thought process when I was a theist.
But his use of faith describing something that may only be a thought process in his mind (his own mental disposition), and thinking he's using faith in the same way to describe his trust that the chair will not collapse, is a completely flawed thought process.
It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to bigfoot.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.