Question about "faith"

[Simon Moon]

You can take spirituality to any culture, you can explain what it is for, you can teach cultures that don't share your views of spirituality. It's the very definition of Church outreach and missionary work.

Yes, one could do the above. But you continually miss the point.

But that still does not get anywhere near to the kind of demonstration that the chair exists. All these cultures would have to go on is your word for it. If they came to you with their version of a sitting implement, they could show you it exists, and how it works, and why it is trustworthy. If they came to with their spiritual/god beliefs, they would be completely unable to convince you of their god's existence.

I can show you how trusting in God has supported my life and improved it. It is in the same ballpark, it's just not a materialist only ball park, although all are welcome.

I see you didn't respond to my friend's drastic improvement in his life that he credits to his conversion of Hinduism in post #227. Why should my friend's claim that Hinduism was the cause of his drastic improvement of life (quitting drugs, stopping petty crime, turnaround in career, and family life) be dismissed as nothing to do with the existence of the Hindu gods, but your life improvements be credited with the existence of the Christian god?

Please demonstrate that some non-materialist realm exists, with any where near the kind of reliability that a chair can be demonstrated to exist.

Secondly you do have faith in those things. You just refuse to call it faith because of it's connotations and your bias. It's very hard to drive a vehicle without faith in your eyes.

Still no.

I have reasonable expectations (not faith) in those things, because they have constantly demonstrated their reliability to convey reality. I have tons of evidence for their reliability, not least of which, is I am still alive.



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