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[Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 20, 2020 at 4:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 20, 2020 at 4:15 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Actually no, in a nutshell:

-God created everything, including the ability to choose
-He gave humans the ability to choose freely.

So, humans do make their own minds. But if God didn't give them that kind of freedom; there won't be a choice to make in the first place.

It isn’t logically coherent for God to have created ‘everything’ while still allowing free will. Subsumed into the category ‘everything’ are the choices we make and the outcomes of those choices.

It would be better for your position to state, ‘God did not create everything, which is why we have the ability to choose freely’. I’d don’t agree with that argument (I’m a determinist), but it would make more sense for you.

Boru

But if you set those two rules that:

-God created everything, including the ability to choose
-He gave humans the ability to choose freely.

It will be matching with God's claim to have created everything:

Quote:Sura 25, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 2 )   He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination. 

The ability is a creation. Choosing is a creation.
So his will is always preceding ours, we never choose but because he gave us the ability to choose. And even our choice is limited to what he created.

#note (just for fun): humans discovered ways to take away the ability to choose by injecting drugs and other materials into the target,
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men - by WinterHold - October 20, 2020 at 5:14 pm

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