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RE: Death Penalty
June 12, 2009 at 8:43 pm (This post was last modified: June 12, 2009 at 8:44 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(June 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: I live in PA, and I'm against the death penalty. How can you put someone to death for a crime, when this country was built on crimes?


Tu qouque fallacy. (look it up). Nazi war criminals used the same argument during the Nuremberg trials;EG The ALLIES bombed Dresden,and used the atom bomb. The ALLIES committed terrible crimes,how can you judge us?That defence was rejected and is not accepted in courts anywhere that I'm aware..


Plus, the claim that "this country was built on crimes" is an opinion based on a moral judgment,not a statement of fact.

Plus, using that argument one could also ask,"name ONE country which was not so formed"

There is no moral justification for capital punishment nor does the deterrent argument hold water. However,there are sound pragmatic arguments .(assuming one also abolishes that pesky appeal process).
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Death Penalty - by Eilonnwy - March 23, 2009 at 12:05 pm
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RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - March 29, 2009 at 11:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 30, 2009 at 4:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by TRUTH1986 - June 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 12, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm
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RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 14, 2009 at 4:28 am
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RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 14, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 12, 2009 at 3:57 pm
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RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm
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RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 14, 2009 at 1:25 am
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RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 15, 2009 at 10:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Giff - June 16, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 16, 2009 at 11:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 16, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 16, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by LEDO - June 16, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 17, 2009 at 2:21 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 17, 2009 at 2:41 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 17, 2009 at 7:57 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 18, 2009 at 12:10 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 18, 2009 at 10:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by RodneyEpicurus - July 29, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - August 2, 2009 at 4:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by chatpilot - August 3, 2009 at 3:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - August 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - August 3, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Violet - August 7, 2009 at 10:52 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 8, 2009 at 1:38 am
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RE: Death Penalty - by Violet - August 8, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by theVOID - August 12, 2009 at 6:50 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - August 12, 2009 at 7:33 am
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RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 12, 2009 at 8:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by dry land fish - August 12, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Giff - August 25, 2009 at 4:11 am

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