(June 12, 2009 at 8:43 pm)padraic Wrote:(June 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: I live in PA, and I'm against the death penalty. How can you put someone to death for a crime, when this country was built on crimes?
Tu qouque fallacy. (look it up). Nazi war criminals used the same argument during the Nuremberg trials;EG The ALLIES bombed Dresden,and used the atom bomb. The ALLIES committed terrible crimes,how can you judge us?That defence was rejected and is not accepted in courts anywhere that I'm aware..
Plus, the claim that "this country was built on crimes" is an opinion based on a moral judgment,not a statement of fact.
Plus, using that argument one could also ask,"name ONE country which was not so formed"
There is no moral justification for capital punishment nor does the deterrent argument hold water. However,there are sound pragmatic arguments .(assuming one also abolishes that pesky appeal process).
TRUTH1986 is quite correct, was it not a crime that the indigenous red people of America had their lands stolen from them by the white man?
I'm against thhe death penalty too.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
