(November 1, 2011 at 2:24 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: There is no order, no law. You propose that we go back to the stone age with modern technology.
No. That is a specific anarchism called "Anarcho-primitivism", which is not very popular. Anarcho-syndicalism is VERY technology friendly...it's even nicknamed "techno-anarchy". I will also point out that there is also another form of governing close to Syndicalism called "Technocracy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy
Like I said before, Technocracy and Syndicalism are VERY closely related to each other. So much so that they tend to get along well when mixed together.
Many anarchists are very bright and educated and enjoy technology.
Not to mention you made yet ANOTHER mistake in your posting. You have equated law and order with technology.
Quote:Police and armies can exist without governments?Yes they can and yes they do. A very quick example is mercenaries, or guns for hire. Of course, I dispise mercs. Any army system you can think of can exist without a government. In other words, military is MILITARY. They have their own comand structure. Surely you, being the military buff that you are, should understand this?
Quote:What are you going to have? Militias?The militia won the American Revolutionary war and rubbed the king of Englands face in his own shit over 200 years ago. The government of America back in that day was barely starting, so they depended on individuals coming forward and doing what they could to revolt against the government that enthralled them.
Quote:The police protects everyone. You, and the guy next door.LOL. You mean to tell me that a cop will take a bullet for me? LMFAO! That sentence was rather naive of you.
Quote:But what if the guy in the next door hates, say, people who hate ice-cream and founds a militia that is made up from people who hate ice-cream, and barres a portion of the neighborhood or begins to persecute, kill or torture ice-cream eaters, who are you going to turn to?..and how will this differ if the guy next door to YOU, in your government run country, does the same thing and builds a militia big anough to split the country in half? In other words, how is that ANY different from the chances you are taking right now in your heavily governed state?
Quote:And it'll be the same for armies, fragmented, and seperate. You need to have a solid authority for things to work.I point you back up to my original quote that a military has its own internal command structure independent of STATE government.
Quote:Besides, all companies and assorted things now run on the lines of the law.LOLOLOLOLOLOL...OMG....honestly. You think companies obey laws? You think wallstreet follows regulations? Look up East India Company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
They bacame their own government.
Quote:[Like if I knew that the police wouldn't take me in, what really stops me from having my own gang enter a company building and seizing all the assets inside?then that basically means you are an asshole doesnt it? You are telling me that you would willing do horrible and bad things because there is no government to stop you.
Syndicalism gives everyone an equal share of the pie. they will have what they need. If someone wants more, how long do you think they will get before someone stops them? How about Germany? They went from decent republic to Fascism in leass than 5 years. What was the protection that their former government good for?
you speak of government as if it is something permanent and protective. Yet an elementary pass through the governments of history reveal that all governments fail, and are sometimes IMMEDIATELY usurped by unsavory folk like the Nazi's.
All you are doing is wringing your hands at me in that post. there is not one single guarentee for or against any type of government system.
Quote:Bodyguards? What if they try the same? It's what you want to call it, anarchy. IT's fucking anarchy everywhere. You cannot expect things to run on their own.
What if your neighbor decides to up and murder you in the night? Where was your government and law and order to help you then?
And, as usual, you completely get anarchy wrong. Have you even looked it up? Have you done ANY research on it? I think quite a few things will run on their own. If people are willing to do things, then it will get done. If people are NOT willing to do things, then I suggest slavery is being forced upon the masses if they are forced to do such things.