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[Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
(December 16, 2020 at 5:54 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 16, 2020 at 3:53 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But look at the chronological order of these events which science proved:
1-The moon gets dimmer
2-The moon falls into earth in the form of debris
3-The sun eats the earth with the moon's remains on it

Isn't that identical to the scenario in a Quranic Sura revealed before 1400 years?
Could an Arab who can't read come up with this story 1400 years ago, in this same chronological order?

And no post-hoc here; the verses are more than clear and the Quran was written in Mohammed's life proven in Carbon dating (proven by Britain):

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Quran_manuscript#cite_note-UoB-2][/url]
I thought the sun was going to absorb the moon...at least according to the first post here.  Now it's a multi-step operation where the moon falls into the earth and then the sun eats the earth.  Is there a new translation with each reading?

It's like a galactic turducken at this point.

Or just a bigger, layered pile of shit.

1+1 = 2

But I can also write it as:

0.5+0.5+0.5+0.5 = 2

I can make it a very long operation if I wrote it as

0.1+0.1+......+0.1 = 2

Right?
That's why you should care about the conclusion; not about the steps. You mostly play the "detail" card to win arguments; but avoid the conclusion because it proves you wrong; so wrong, you only trigger a mirage to give the reader "the impression" that you know what you're talking about.

Bottom line: the conclusion of this verse is that the moon and the sun are joined in the future, and that is proved by science to happen.

Case closed. Conclusion is stated.

(December 16, 2020 at 9:48 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(December 16, 2020 at 8:38 am)WinterHold Wrote: The events in the order of the verses speak about what happens in the day of judgement (see verse 1):
1- The moon is dimmed (verse 8)
2-The moon and the sun joining (verse 9)

This is identical to the scientific explanation:

No, it really isn't. It is superficially similar to certain aspects of the scientific explanation once you've done some post hoc cherry picking and misinterpretation.
No post hoc. Read the verse again and realize that this was said 1400 years ago.
Quote:
Quote:When the sun becomes a red giant, automatically the light from the moon will be dimmed because the light from the sun will be massive + both the earth and the moon will be so close from the sun. So massive that a celestial body that reflects the sun's light will be insignificant.

No it won't. First, the moon would not be getting dimmer, the sun would be getting brighter. The moon would not be dimmed. Second, and more importantly, the moon shines by reflected light. That means that as the sun gets brighter so does the moon. This is the opposite of what verse 8 says. Thank you for using modern science to demonstrate just how wrong the Quran is. Again. In case there was ever any doubt.

It will get dimmer and probably humans won't even see it on that day because the red giant's light would be so strong and close to both earth and the moon. So if you will see the stronger light; not the weaker light.

You neglect that earth will be so close to the red giant, so close that it will swallow it later on. If our planet was faraway from the sun I might believe you, but never if the earth is proven to end up inside the sun.

look at the picture in this link again: (this is earth facing the red giant)
[Image: 274px-Red_Giant_Earth_warm.jpg]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o...far_future
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future. - by WinterHold - December 17, 2020 at 6:54 am

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