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An afterlife would be terrifying for me
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RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 20, 2020 at 9:50 pm)Apollo Wrote: So the “happiness “ becomes more abstract in middle ages.

Hmmm... I don't quite see where this would follow from what I said. Theology in the Middle Ages followed on directly from Greek philosophy. If happiness is presented as something abstract in the Divine Comedy then it's also abstract in Plato's Symposium

Quote: I am guessing because mere worldly rewards were no longer inaccessible for many to yearn for material things but rather people with more fed bellies needed more intellectually stimulating ideas of reward system in afterlife. 

So while ancient Egyptians worried about wealth and slaves and utensils in afterlife and packed them up with pharaohs, medieval people had more self-actuating ideas about afterlife and focused more on the “spirit” than carnal desires.  This to me sounds like evolution in human conscious and abstract thinking.

Egyptian culture lasted a long time. Were people in the time of the pyramids particularly worried about material conditions -- more so than in Plato's Athens or Dante's Florence? Were those who were in material need the same ones who made up their theological rituals, or was this the role of an elite class? I'm not sure if the facts are in keeping with your explanation here. 

Were Egyptian burial rituals developed during a time of material hardship and then unchanged for millennia? Remember that the time between the building of the pyramids and Cleopatra's life is greater than the time between Cleopatra's life and now. There was "abstract" philosophy going on in Egypt -- did it have an affect on ideas of the afterlife?

Your explanation sounds like a just-so story to me -- too neat and too much in conformity with modern prejudices to be persuasive. I think you've started with a theory -- that ideas of the afterlife are fantasy extensions of what we want in this life -- but I'm not convinced yet that this is generally true. To be confident I think we'd have to do a lot more research.

The afterlife as depicted in Homer is horrible -- the opposite of a wish-fulfillment fantasy. The final goal of the afterlife in Indian and Buddhist philosophy is generally seen as the total extinction of the individual. So these, too, would work against your theory.
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RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 13, 2020 at 10:09 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 13, 2020 at 10:29 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 13, 2020 at 10:44 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 14, 2020 at 6:50 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 14, 2020 at 9:40 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by brewer - August 14, 2020 at 11:15 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 18, 2020 at 11:54 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 19, 2020 at 12:08 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 19, 2020 at 12:14 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 19, 2020 at 12:35 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 19, 2020 at 12:59 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 19, 2020 at 1:14 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 19, 2020 at 1:16 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 19, 2020 at 2:22 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 20, 2020 at 9:50 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 21, 2020 at 2:20 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Abaddon_ire - December 19, 2020 at 2:26 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by ignoramus - August 17, 2020 at 2:00 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by ignoramus - August 18, 2020 at 5:50 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Uri Azulay - September 19, 2020 at 10:54 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Sal - September 20, 2020 at 12:40 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Lek - December 18, 2020 at 9:18 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Lek - December 18, 2020 at 9:29 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Lek - December 19, 2020 at 3:51 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by no one - December 18, 2020 at 11:00 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by snowtracks - December 19, 2020 at 12:11 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by zebo-the-fat - December 19, 2020 at 5:26 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Angrboda - December 19, 2020 at 12:41 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by snowtracks - December 23, 2020 at 11:35 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Fake Messiah - December 23, 2020 at 11:49 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Nay_Sayer - December 19, 2020 at 3:01 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Grandizer - December 19, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by AniKoferBo - December 20, 2020 at 1:12 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Angrboda - December 20, 2020 at 3:15 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by snowtracks - January 4, 2021 at 12:01 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Apollo - December 21, 2020 at 5:46 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 21, 2020 at 8:21 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by AniKoferBo - December 22, 2020 at 8:43 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - December 22, 2020 at 8:21 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by xalvador88 - January 3, 2021 at 12:38 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by zwanzig - January 3, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by rado84 - January 4, 2021 at 5:13 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - January 4, 2021 at 7:21 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by rado84 - January 4, 2021 at 7:25 am
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Belacqua - January 4, 2021 at 7:27 pm
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me - by Angrboda - January 4, 2021 at 8:17 pm

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