RE: M Flynn suggest military in swing states....
December 21, 2020 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2020 at 8:00 pm by Brian37.)
(December 21, 2020 at 5:17 pm)Spongebob Wrote:(December 21, 2020 at 1:53 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And that's why I said what I said. Better responses when you read the post you quote.
The quote "The Constitution isn't a suicide pact," has typically referenced cases where presidents ignored the law and forged ahead with something that was not constitutionally supported, such as Jefferson's purchase of the Louisiana territory and Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus.
I hate it when people bring up Lincoln suspending Habeas Corpus in the case of Trump.
Lincoln's suspension was not because he got election results he didn't like. Suspending Habeas Corpus was constitutionally basically a last resort in the case of war in terms of sedition or foreign bodies attacking us.
Trump would suspend Habeas Corpus, not because of sedition or a foreign country attacked us, but because he lost.
(December 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(December 21, 2020 at 12:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote: We can call Trump's words "just words" all we want, but people are listening to him and acting on what he says.
Just now on Twitter a Representative basically said that if Biden gets inaugurated it will be the end of our democracy. Trump's words unfortunately matter, and his supporters are repeating his nonsense, and selling that conspiracy long term is what can destroy our democracy.
It isn't just Flynn, but many others in his circle, and tons of GOP politicians across the country. 126 House members signed onto a frivolous lawsuit too. It is a collective climate that makes Trump dangerous.
So much for your First Amendment, then.
Boru
It isn't a matter of silencing free speech. Nobody is advocating that.
Incitement is not protected speech, and it should not be coddled when coming from seats of political power.
If free speech were always absolute then those fighting to keep slavery were right. If free speech were always absolute then it would be legal to sell alcohol to those under 18.
You also cannot shout "FIRE" in a theatre. It is worse when Politicians do that.
Trump and his sycophants are not protecting free speech, they are inciting for no good reason other than the fact he lost.