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"Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
(January 5, 2021 at 9:10 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And isn't that authoritarianism? I mean, what gives you the right to decide for other people what is right and what is wrong, and to punish them for doing what you think is wrong?
I didn't write our laws, and no, it's not authoritarianism to suggest that some crimes are committed by people who simply don't know any better or have nothing better.   

Quote:And why would a sane person participate in Vukovar Massacre, for example? Because, if you do participate in Vukovar Massacre, there are two things that can happen to you: you can end up killed, or you can survive and forever be remembered as one of the bad guys. If you oppose Vukovar Massacre, you can end up killed by the illegal army, or you can end up in history as one of the good guys. Therefore, the rational thing to do is not to join the illegal army led by Raznatovic that committed Vukovar Massacre.
They didn't have the benefit of hindsight as you and I do now, and that certainly wasn't their expectation.  Not that it matters much..since, as you well know, there are people who would do so again today and whether or not a course of action is rational has no bearing on whether or not people took it.  

Quote:Both. I think that if they are not just punishment for misdeeds, it logically follows they do not actually exist. That is by the principle of rationality, one of the basic principles of modern social sciences.

That is not the principle of rationality, and your conclusion doesn't follow.  Bad things exist.  A thing being bad does not suggest imply or demonstrate that it does not exist.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?" - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2021 at 9:41 am

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