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Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
Yeah, we get it, winterhold, you blame everything on the US, and you don't need to expand on that as that is the regular modus operandi of many Muslims in ME - it's never the violent ideology of the Qur'an and Islam.

This is something that Ali Rizvi explained in his book:

Quote:Growing up in a fairly moderate, progressive Muslim family, I was told myriad political reasons for this supposedly recent rise of militant Islamic fervor in the world. My parents and their friends would discuss it at length during parties and get-togethers. Every root cause under the sun was blamed for the growing fanaticism we saw around us—politics, culture, power, greed, U.S. foreign policy, British colonialism, Arab nationalism, Israel, the media—you name it. But no one seemed to want to connect it to the religion. It was anything, and everything, but the religion itself. Despite being the only common denominator, Islam had nothing to do with it at all, they’d say.

[...]

In time, however, I became convinced that what I had been told was wrong. My elders would tell me, “Ali, it’s not just religion that causes trouble in the world. What about greed? Power? Hate? What about racism and xenophobia? What about nationalism?”

I would find it amusing that in order to defend religion as a good thing, they would lump it into the same category as these terrible things. This was quite telling. So I would agree with them. I would say, “Oh, yes, I completely agree with you that religion is right up there on that list with greed, hate, and xenophobia.”

Now, it’s one thing to say religion is the cause of every ill. Of course it isn’t, and no reasonable person could claim that. But it’s another to never hold religion accountable for any ill, effectively according it a status of honor and immunity that these very same apologists would never give to any of the other terrible things on that list that they themselves put religion on.
And all of this would make me wonder: Was this really about extremists corrupting the religion? Or was it about moderates sanitizing it? I was seeking explanations, but got excuses. Between then and now, they’ve only become more pronounced.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul - by Fake Messiah - January 14, 2021 at 2:26 am

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