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trying to adopt an amoral worldview
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RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview
(January 16, 2021 at 7:30 pm)bonbonbaron Wrote: I would love to come out of this mindset and adopt another one more in tune with the way the universe actually works. 

(January 16, 2021 at 7:37 pm)bonbonbaron Wrote: I view the world through more of a lens of what works and what doesn't. So when I see other people benefiting from verbally abusing their peers into submission and getting the girl and all the cool friends, it makes me question the whole "morality is the way" paradigm. NOTE: That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and make other people feel like crap. I'm just questioning the moralistic viewpoint, that's all.

I noticed that you stressed this idea of how the universe/world works.  What would the issue of who girls you know decide to sleep with have to do with whether or not a moral view works?  In my experience, they're not doing any moral calculus on that one.  Is it a moral belief on your part that people are not getting what they deserve -the good guys not getting enough sex, the bad guys getting too much - that leads to these comments?  That would be asserting a moral view about a practical matter, not questioning one.

Hypergender, exaggerated sexuality, and emotional unavailable might get you laid - but that doesn't answer the question of whether they're moral, or whether a moral view works.

I think that the core of the objection - if it's to do with the above, is flawed. There isn't any action good or bad that makes a person more or less deserving of sex. That's a really subtle claim of possession, whereby a person gets to feeling that because they're a nice guy (whether they are or aren't, as a point of fact, immaterial), the girls around them are morally obligated to drop their panties - mistakenly perceiving an injustice in the world not because bad guys are getting laid - but because they themselves aren't.

All that set aside, if the question of whether or not something works -is- being reduced to whether or not it gets you laid - I wouldn't expect an amoral view to be any more or less useful than a moral one.

Perhaps you should consider taking up jogging, rather than any specific worldview?
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trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by bonbonbaron - January 16, 2021 at 7:30 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 16, 2021 at 7:34 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by bonbonbaron - January 16, 2021 at 7:37 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by arewethereyet - January 16, 2021 at 10:31 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 17, 2021 at 12:47 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 16, 2021 at 11:55 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by brewer - January 16, 2021 at 8:16 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by arewethereyet - January 16, 2021 at 8:20 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Pat Mustard - January 16, 2021 at 8:22 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by zwanzig - January 16, 2021 at 8:29 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Smaug - January 16, 2021 at 8:50 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by ignoramus - January 16, 2021 at 9:15 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Fireball - January 17, 2021 at 12:20 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 17, 2021 at 12:23 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by ignoramus - January 17, 2021 at 1:18 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Angrboda - January 17, 2021 at 11:50 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2021 at 12:50 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by ignoramus - January 17, 2021 at 7:35 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rhizomorph13 - January 17, 2021 at 10:29 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 18, 2021 at 1:56 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by HappySkeptic - January 18, 2021 at 8:48 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by arewethereyet - January 18, 2021 at 8:52 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by John 6IX Breezy - January 25, 2021 at 11:39 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by vulcanlogician - January 19, 2021 at 1:54 am
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Drich - January 19, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by arewethereyet - January 19, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Ranjr - January 19, 2021 at 2:34 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 19, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rhizomorph13 - January 19, 2021 at 4:24 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 20, 2021 at 1:27 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 20, 2021 at 4:57 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by The Grand Nudger - January 21, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 21, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 21, 2021 at 3:43 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Simon Moon - January 25, 2021 at 2:40 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rhizomorph13 - January 25, 2021 at 4:44 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by Rev. Rye - January 25, 2021 at 11:54 pm
RE: trying to adopt an amoral worldview - by John 6IX Breezy - January 26, 2021 at 12:23 am

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