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LAW and CIVILIZATION
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RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION
(January 17, 2021 at 7:26 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Or, you could just have the convo.

Law is not descriptive of human behavior.  The existence of a law does not mean that a person practically cannot do x - or that there would be more x if there were no law.  I think that we're on the same page so far - is this what you meant?

Language of law can describe human conduct as well as any language can.

I am saying, in keeping with Sartre's description of how human conduct originates, that the given, existing, language of law is not capable of determining persons either to act or to forbear action.  For Sartre all human action and inaction arise on the basis of what does not exist, in the sense that the future is a nothing which humans make as a desideratum which they intend to usher into the world in the imminent future.  Human conduct originates on the basis of nothing, non-being, and, is a nihilative process wherein we humans make the nothing that is the future, and, we make the present nothing, as past; and, transcend the present by doing our future which is a not, until realized and, in turn, transcended.
Language of law is a given, an existing state of affairs, and, is what it is, an identity A=A, which cannot get out of itself in order to provide the intelligent conscious movent force for a human being to do an act.  Action arises only ex nihilo out of nothing, and, law is not nothing; hence it is not, cannot be, the basis of a mode of origination of human conduct. I have just enunciated the Sartreian position for you, with which I concur by watching myself perform what Sartre calls "double nihilation"...

What does "...have the convo. ..." mean?

Right; the existence of law does not mean that I cannot in practical fact do x, or, that I shall not do x because there is a law against doing x. Law is the largest con and scam on earth, wherein our prisons are always over full, and law enforcers maintain a radically wealthy lifestyle, all predicated upon the fact that neither they nor their victims have the least idea that law does not, cannot, determine human conduct, which is what law enforcement delusionally insists be the case, now, unto your instant murder if you transgress their mistaken notion that we are determined by law. A new ilk of civilization and justice can be predicated upon the Sartreian understanding of how a human act actually arises in the world, as a wholly negative, negational, nihilative process, wherein action upsurges only via negation...
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LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Angrboda - January 17, 2021 at 3:21 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 3:44 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 4:47 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 6:00 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 6:21 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by onlinebiker - January 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 5:50 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by onlinebiker - January 18, 2021 at 6:37 am
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 5:53 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 6:09 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 7:12 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 8:20 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by brewer - January 17, 2021 at 6:11 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 6:13 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2021 at 6:15 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 7:23 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 7:46 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 17, 2021 at 7:49 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Belacqua - January 17, 2021 at 8:02 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 8:17 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 8:52 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 17, 2021 at 8:56 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2021 at 7:26 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 8:05 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Architect Of Fate - January 17, 2021 at 7:55 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Architect Of Fate - January 17, 2021 at 8:34 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 8:40 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 8:49 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 8:50 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 8:51 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 8:54 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 8:55 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Architect Of Fate - January 17, 2021 at 9:03 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 9:06 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Architect Of Fate - January 17, 2021 at 9:08 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 9:12 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2021 at 9:14 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by senorlegalo - January 17, 2021 at 9:08 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 17, 2021 at 9:15 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 17, 2021 at 9:27 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Architect Of Fate - January 17, 2021 at 9:40 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Peebo-Thuhlu - January 17, 2021 at 11:30 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by brewer - January 18, 2021 at 12:01 am
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Angrboda - January 18, 2021 at 12:56 am
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Rhizomorph13 - January 18, 2021 at 11:41 am
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Pat Mustard - January 18, 2021 at 2:49 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 18, 2021 at 2:54 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2021 at 12:14 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2021 at 12:16 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 19, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 18, 2021 at 4:41 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by onlinebiker - January 18, 2021 at 5:05 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Pat Mustard - January 18, 2021 at 6:17 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 18, 2021 at 6:37 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Fake Messiah - January 18, 2021 at 7:02 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Nay_Sayer - January 18, 2021 at 7:06 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Peebo-Thuhlu - January 18, 2021 at 7:06 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 18, 2021 at 7:05 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2021 at 7:11 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by Angrboda - January 19, 2021 at 2:51 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 19, 2021 at 3:02 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: LAW and CIVILIZATION - by arewethereyet - January 19, 2021 at 3:11 pm

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