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What is your conversion standard?
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RE: What is your conversion standard?
(January 16, 2021 at 11:56 am)Five Wrote: I am a simple man with simple needs, my day to day doesn't worry about what is going to happen to me after I die, and I am committed to finding my own purpose in life and finding fulfillment in my own way. If the religion I am being approached with has any rules or standards that are in any way repressive, restrictive, or weighted against looming punishment, then they need to convince me how or why those rules benefit me in this life, without trying to tell me the before- and afterlife stories.

I am a member of a UU church.  No doctrines preached and no specific rules.  Just some respect for universal rights and values.  It's not for most, though.  We don't actually give any answers.

I think it is psychology that people value things that cost more.  If a religion has no cost, how can it be valuable?  If anyone gets in to heaven, then why bother being good?  That is what the traditional religions provide -- a set of costs that promise an ultimate reward.

I think the spiritual path is far better.  When you find what you value, you will try to honor that in your actions, to be true to yourself.  Self-integrity is part of self-love and self-esteem.  And yeah, I fail at that sometimes, but slaughtering 2 doves or accepting wine from a priest won't wash away mistakes by blood-magic.  I just try to learn from them. Or, I just go have a beer Smile
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What is your conversion standard? - by zwanzig - January 16, 2021 at 11:56 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by RozzerusUnrelentus - January 16, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by awty - January 16, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by onlinebiker - January 16, 2021 at 12:32 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by ignoramus - January 17, 2021 at 10:54 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Duty - January 16, 2021 at 12:38 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by brewer - January 16, 2021 at 12:39 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Duty - January 16, 2021 at 12:50 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Abaddon_ire - January 16, 2021 at 6:38 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 16, 2021 at 6:42 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Abaddon_ire - January 16, 2021 at 6:57 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Grandizer - January 16, 2021 at 9:53 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Rev. Rye - January 16, 2021 at 9:54 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by zwanzig - January 16, 2021 at 11:25 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Rahn127 - January 17, 2021 at 10:15 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by HappySkeptic - January 18, 2021 at 11:57 pm
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by zwanzig - January 19, 2021 at 1:04 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Duty - January 19, 2021 at 1:47 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by The Valkyrie - January 19, 2021 at 1:54 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by ignoramus - January 19, 2021 at 2:19 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Nay_Sayer - January 19, 2021 at 2:08 am
RE: What is your conversion standard? - by Simon Moon - January 19, 2021 at 10:33 pm

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