RE: The Purpose of Pain
January 27, 2021 at 1:20 am
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2021 at 2:24 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We don't stop being human just because we aren't suffering any more than we stop being human when we drink pepto.
Soul forge ideology is not defensible. I guess we could complain that human beings figured this out a long time ago, but that's just a failure on our part to be human. No god has ever punished or hurt any human being, with a soul forge or any other thing. That would be humans, with mealy mouthed excuses the whole way through. There's very little else in all of human experience that demonstrates mans utter contempt for his fellow man than the miserable superstitions that we'll create and defend.
Since this is a serious thread, pain, is an indicator of real or potential damage or danger to the body. There's no higher purpose to it, no man behind the curtains, no plan for it whatsoever. Pain is not something that any moral agent has inflicted on humanity for us to be frustrated with or thankful for that agent. We find ourselves feeling pain due to the circumstances of a biological reality which has and will continue to change, and some of us already have equally hereditary conditions which reduce our ability to experience it. It is not.... in any way.... inextricable or necessary to our human nature that we feel pain. Never has been, isn't now, never will be. We don't all feel pain for the same reasons or in the same circumstances, and our feeling pain is no guarantee that it's own rational or procedural basis has been met. Pain misfires with regularity and can't actually be trusted to accurately report the conditions it purports to report.
If there were some creator picking parts off a shelf it may have omitted pain, and pain may have been intentionally made less obviously deficient as a means in and of itself...and..ofc... an omnipotent god could create human beings who don't experience it and are still human..after all, we can. So much for the forge and the god who created it for purpose. Stymied by generations of unplanned sex and accidental discoveries and changes in human behavior or circumstance which actively thwart it, eh? If pain were a forge, pain wouldn't be so prevalent in unteachable moments, or, if we prefer, the presence of pain in those unteachable moments, and very often the worst pain - demonstrates that the forge is itself an item of very poor design. The fact that pain actively harms our ability to learn, a flaw of the forge or ourselves or both - and both are ostensibly created by the hypothetical idiot of god who knows little or nothing of the specifics of it's own alleged creation.
All of that, and more...before we get to how much of an asshole you'd have to be to lay pain on the world through the power of your almighty magic - which you could have used for absolutely anything else.
Soul forge ideology is not defensible. I guess we could complain that human beings figured this out a long time ago, but that's just a failure on our part to be human. No god has ever punished or hurt any human being, with a soul forge or any other thing. That would be humans, with mealy mouthed excuses the whole way through. There's very little else in all of human experience that demonstrates mans utter contempt for his fellow man than the miserable superstitions that we'll create and defend.
Since this is a serious thread, pain, is an indicator of real or potential damage or danger to the body. There's no higher purpose to it, no man behind the curtains, no plan for it whatsoever. Pain is not something that any moral agent has inflicted on humanity for us to be frustrated with or thankful for that agent. We find ourselves feeling pain due to the circumstances of a biological reality which has and will continue to change, and some of us already have equally hereditary conditions which reduce our ability to experience it. It is not.... in any way.... inextricable or necessary to our human nature that we feel pain. Never has been, isn't now, never will be. We don't all feel pain for the same reasons or in the same circumstances, and our feeling pain is no guarantee that it's own rational or procedural basis has been met. Pain misfires with regularity and can't actually be trusted to accurately report the conditions it purports to report.
If there were some creator picking parts off a shelf it may have omitted pain, and pain may have been intentionally made less obviously deficient as a means in and of itself...and..ofc... an omnipotent god could create human beings who don't experience it and are still human..after all, we can. So much for the forge and the god who created it for purpose. Stymied by generations of unplanned sex and accidental discoveries and changes in human behavior or circumstance which actively thwart it, eh? If pain were a forge, pain wouldn't be so prevalent in unteachable moments, or, if we prefer, the presence of pain in those unteachable moments, and very often the worst pain - demonstrates that the forge is itself an item of very poor design. The fact that pain actively harms our ability to learn, a flaw of the forge or ourselves or both - and both are ostensibly created by the hypothetical idiot of god who knows little or nothing of the specifics of it's own alleged creation.
All of that, and more...before we get to how much of an asshole you'd have to be to lay pain on the world through the power of your almighty magic - which you could have used for absolutely anything else.
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