(November 1, 2011 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Saving grace is detailed all throughout scripture, including Ephesians 1 and 2, Romans 5, 8, 9, and 11, John 6, and10 to name a few. Common grace is deduced from verses such as Genesis 6:8, Romans 1 and 3, and Acts 10 just to also name a few.Right I'm seeing predestination mentioned, but no other distinction. Please quote the passage you are referring to.
Quote:Bradford is reigning with Christ today; I assure you it was all worth it.Prove it.
Quote:God ordains all that comes to pass, whether it be actively or passively.So why am I being held accountable for your puppeteer-god meddling with my life?
Quote:He does not destroy unbelievers, they are given justice. However, God sees it fit to give even the unbeliever better than they deserve because he is a loving God.No he's not. I could never be as heartless as to drag people into existence and then create a realm of eternal suffering for them. Sorry you've warped your mind enough to think that's love.
Quote:Christ atoned for people who came before him as well as after him.Nice dodge, but you haven't answered my question. I'm waiting...
Quote:This commits the fallacy of believing that God wanted to save everyone and failed.Well you've made it obvious you don't understand sarcasm. I'm fully aware of the monster god described in scriptures, thank you.
Quote:Scripture is quite clear that everyone God wants to be saved has been and will be, and all others were given what they deserved; perfect grace and justice in action.So the scriptures say. Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens is quite clear that Peter is a mischievous boy who can fly and magically refuses to grow up.
Its Fiction, not Fact.