Death Penalty

[bozo]

For sake of argument let's say we hypothetically really do know that someone is guilty...I would see no reason to go further than 'putthing them down like a rabid dog' - Ideally speaking I see no reason to add suffering, it would only be one's own vengeance 'attempting' to satisfy itself, very destructive - I see no good that can come of it. And since I don't believe in 'Free-Will' I don't find it to be a good approach at all. Merely 'disposing of' is the furthest I world go. And like I said - I think we'd somehow have to 'know' - and how can we? I think the risk of killing innocent people is too great to have it as a law...I'd rather guilty people go than innocent people be executed. So that's why I wouldn't even go with the 'putting them down' thing - because as a law the risk is too great. And how you would react if a family member dies can be very different to how you should react...

The old mentality of, "Rather see a thousand guilty be set free, than one innocent put away"...... I do agree with to "Some" extent.

However, if they have the person on video, DNA in the girl/boy, etc. etc. etc. then this is where I agree with the Death Penalty being in place. Simple as that, and to just simply say "Vengeance" is the only reason, you are completely wrong in that assumption. There is a form of mental justice to the victims family when the correct person is caught and put to death.

CA case 1993, man walks into a clothing store, has it locked up, rapes 3 of the women and kills all 5 that are inside. You ask the family members if it was just vengeance they felt when he was put to death a few years later.

Consider the following hypothetical scenario for instance: What if you kill someone for killing a family member but it turns out you'd got the wrong person and you killed someone innocent - just as the real killer did your family member. Since if they had simply been arrested and/or questioned and then it was realized that it wasn't them - then police could search for the real killer rather than having someone else innocent die at your hands. From the family of this innocent victim's perspective you could seem just as bad to them as the killer of your family member does to you...they may not even sympathize because they might think you're 'just as bad' because you 'stooped down' to the level of the killer of your family member. And if they somehow can see it from your perspective a bit - I bet they'd still be very angry and upset (assuming they loved their family member) - it's hardly going to seem different to them if different at all, I think.

If I made that bad of a mistake, then I would accept the punishment I received. Of course after jury trials, appeals etc. etc. etc.

And please save me the bullshit of "Stooping down" to the level of the killer by killing him. Unless I start raping him before or after, or take his money after shooting him in the head....Ummm, no, there is no stooping down to his level when his act is of such.

It was I, not Kyu, who used the expression " blood-lust " and I don't shrink from it. You haven't actually replied on my point about innocent people being executed. Would you like to?

Yeah, shit happens..... ... Just messing with you..

Read the above of what I wrote to EvF on this post and you'll get the idea....If not, I'll try and be more specific...Maybe, but I'm pretty cut and dry when it comes to the death penalty.... And hey, I'm as tree hugging liberal as the next, but the death penalty is truly my righty side, I guess....lol

OK so you would have the death penalty when it is " certain " that you've got the right murderer(s ).
Unfortunately, you know as well as I that such certainty cannot be guaranteed 100% of the time.....that is my principal reason for being against.
I think there can be not much worse in life than to find yourself banged up for a crime you didn't commit.
And when that crime is murder...........