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Death Penalty
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RE: Death Penalty
Quote:OK so you would have the death penalty when it is " certain " that you've got the right murderer(s ).
Unfortunately, you know as well as I that such certainty cannot be guaranteed 100% of the time.....that is my principal reason for being against.
I think there can be not much worse in life than to find yourself banged up for a crime you didn't commit.
And when that crime is murder...........

That answer almost sounds like a Christian defending their Pro-Life stance. "Instead of having a happy medium with Abortion, let's just get rid of it, regardless of the circumstance"....

You catch someone on video murdering someone or have their dna inside the victim, I would say that's pretty good evidence that he/she did it. Or better yet, if they come out and testify that they are guilty. Yes, there are not many cases that have this happen, but it does happen and in cases such as that, I agree with the Death penalty.

Just as Abortion, I am Pro-Choice, but do not agree with late term abortions or it being used as a birth control, but because of those few things I disagree with, I would never say, "Just get rid of it because of yada yada..."
Quote:I was talking about in my hypothetical scenario: Of when who you'd killed wasn't actually the killer, because in your rage you killed the wrong person when trying to kill who you thought was your family member's killer because of how you--understandably--felt. So you hypothetically killed an innocent person. I am talking about how the family members of the innocent person you killed may or may not feel you had "Stooped down" to the level of your family member's killer. The difference is of course that you did it by accident because you thought you'd got the killer - and the killer of your family member did it intentionally so you hadn't really "stooped down" - you'd 'just' went out of control and killed the wrong person - which is of course still a total disaster to say the least (in this hypothetical example). But my point is that whether the other family of the innocent person you accidentally killed by mistake could 'see it like that' is what I meant....they may or may not feel you had "stooped down" - I wasn't talking about the killing of a killer I was talking about a killing of someone who was mistaken for a killer who was in fact innocent.

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

But yes I think innocent people being executed is worse than guilty going free - or them simply being locked up instead!

And if you have DNA evidence that is completely undeniable...I see no reason to go beyond 'merely' 'putting them down like a rabid dog' - since I don't believe in 'free will' so it's not like I believe they could do anything otherwise out of their own conscious volition at those exact moments. So I'd see no reason to go beyond 'putting them down like a rabid dog' it gets rid of the 'problem beast' - that is all that's required from my perspective.

I'm sure if I mistakenly killed someone because I thought they were the killer, the innocent victims family would want me dead, just as much as I would if that happened to one of my family members. And like I stated earlier, if I did this, then I would plead my case and be found guilty, but not after many appeals, back and forth, etc. etc. Yes, it would presumably, "Suck", but that still does not deter me from being against Capitol Punishment.

(I just hope I can plead temporary insanity for my reasoning's of going ape shit on a human being. Because something tells me that if someone killed one of my daughters or wife, I would not be in my right mind after the fact if the killer or even a person who I thought did it was standing in-front of me)...
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
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Death Penalty - by Eilonnwy - March 23, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 23, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 23, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 23, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 24, 2009 at 6:23 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Eilonnwy - March 23, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 25, 2009 at 5:43 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 25, 2009 at 3:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by WWLD - March 23, 2009 at 5:32 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - March 23, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 23, 2009 at 10:45 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - March 23, 2009 at 10:53 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 24, 2009 at 12:06 am
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 24, 2009 at 7:01 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 24, 2009 at 7:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 24, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Eilonnwy - March 24, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 24, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Eilonnwy - March 24, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by leo-rcc - March 24, 2009 at 10:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Rockthatpiano06 - March 25, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 25, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 25, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 26, 2009 at 8:57 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Giff - March 26, 2009 at 9:03 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Demonaura - March 26, 2009 at 9:26 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 26, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 26, 2009 at 3:17 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 26, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 28, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 28, 2009 at 5:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 28, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 28, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - March 28, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 29, 2009 at 4:36 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - March 29, 2009 at 5:44 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - March 30, 2009 at 3:53 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - March 28, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 28, 2009 at 10:08 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 29, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - March 29, 2009 at 11:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - March 30, 2009 at 4:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by TRUTH1986 - June 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 12, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 13, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 13, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 6:14 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 14, 2009 at 4:28 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 14, 2009 at 6:45 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 14, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 12, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 13, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 13, 2009 at 7:47 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by LEDO - June 13, 2009 at 9:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 13, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 14, 2009 at 1:25 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 14, 2009 at 8:40 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 14, 2009 at 8:52 am
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 14, 2009 at 3:42 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 14, 2009 at 12:48 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 14, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 14, 2009 at 6:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 15, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - June 15, 2009 at 6:47 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 15, 2009 at 10:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Giff - June 16, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 16, 2009 at 11:27 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - June 16, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Samson - June 16, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by LEDO - June 16, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 17, 2009 at 2:21 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tiberius - June 17, 2009 at 2:41 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 17, 2009 at 7:57 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - June 18, 2009 at 12:10 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Edwardo Piet - June 18, 2009 at 10:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by RodneyEpicurus - July 29, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Meatball - August 2, 2009 at 4:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by chatpilot - August 3, 2009 at 3:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Kyuuketsuki - August 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - August 3, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Violet - August 7, 2009 at 10:52 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 8, 2009 at 1:38 am
RE: Death Penalty - by padraic - August 8, 2009 at 2:54 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 8, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Violet - August 8, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by theVOID - August 12, 2009 at 6:50 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bozo - August 12, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: Death Penalty - by theVOID - August 12, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 12, 2009 at 8:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by dry land fish - August 12, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Giff - August 25, 2009 at 4:11 am

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