Jews vs. Palestine

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So, your argument is that if someone doesn’t like the treatment they’re getting, they can just leave. Even in the home where your family’s lived for generations? And this includes ethnic cleansing? Dumbass, just try and look up some of the conditions Palestinians have to live with and think if you’d be okay with brushing them off with “eh, if you don’t like it, you can leave” if they applied to, for instance, half-Koreans, Christians*, or adults who can barely read.

And while there’s a shitton of debate as to what caused 4/5 of the Arabs in the area to leave in 1947-8, frankly, what set off this particular crisis, expelling Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah, sounds like a pretty clear-cut (if small-scale) example to me. And, bear in mind, I’m actually one of the forumites that’s likely to give Israel the benefit of the doubt (when you’ve dug as deep into the history of the Holocaust as I have and (your hometown was, at one point, the Holocaust Survivor capital of the world, it comes fairly easily, even if it’s in terms of “well, the human rights in Israel are still less shit than most, if not all, other countries in this area,” and “the atrocities that they’ve committed in this week’s skirmish seems more like really disproportionate escalation than aggression,”) it’s really fucking hard to do so in this case, especially if you’re hardwired to not think of ethical questions in terms of “how dare you worry about your selfish desires when you can worry about my selfish desires?”

*note: before you claim you’re already persecuted as a Christian, I would like to point out that your views not being taken seriously enough and/or the laws currently on the books not fitting with the theocratic ideals does not persecution make.

Drich and Winter’s views are emblematic of the whole fucking problem. As long as people are of the opinion that one side or the other is morally and legally in the right in any possible permutation of circumstances, this will never end.

Boru