(May 24, 2021 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 24, 2021 at 1:55 am)Macoleco Wrote: The proper right should be: right of freedom of thought. Which is then, contrary with the freedom of religion, as religion is forced upon children.
It is also a right that benefits the church, as it indoctrinates people legally and under the “right of freedom of religion”. A human right should not benefit any type of institution, much less one as the church.
re-tart. freedom of religion is also freedom from... religion. the admend reads Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. which means the government should have no say in what ever you do or do not believe. how is that not a right?
I agree our government has no say in what you do or do not believe. But it also does not have the right to enforce religious litmis tests to hold office, or set up religious laws that promote social pecking orders. Thus the oath of office "no religious test".
If for example a Muslim born in the United States were of legal age to run for President, and that she or he managed to convince the population to vote for them, that AMERICAN would be legally entitled to hold public office. I am not arguing entitlement here other than the entitlement to file to run. That person, Muslim, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or atheist, ect, would still have to make the argument to the public that they are worthy of holding that office. That is the perpose of running and appealing to the public.
There was a time in America nobody would consider Jews or Catholics for Public office. But we've had atheists and gays and Muslims in our congress since.
So what is it you personally mean by "Congress should have no say in whatever you do or do not believe"?
Drich, I have read enough of your posts over the years to know what you mean by this, beause it is the same argument I get from all the world's religions. "I am willing to leave you alone since you are the minority, as long as you accept I am the majority". In the west it should not be about protecting social pecking orders, in the west, it is about putting people in government that are willing to be neutural on religious issues and to work for everyone, not just a majority.
