Objective Morality?

[Captain Scarlet]

Based on what framework do you make these claims? I happen to agree with them for the record, but I'd like to know the mechanics of how you arrived at being able to claim these to be morally wrong.

I have always struggled to wrestle my own view on morality down waivering between moral realism, relativism and nihilism. All seem to make valid points. I cannot affirm some things are not really wrong, but there is clearly no consistency in time and space around most morality. Killing babies for example was acceptable to the Incas, Romans etc. Then there is the absolutism of theism which makes me think all this stuff is ultimately meaningless. I think desirism has helped concrete my own personal position. If I paraphrase some of the learning I have from desirism:

Moral relativism is a fact. Moral statements describe a relationship between a part of reality we need to evaluate and a given set of reasons for action (desires). The relative position of that desire to that part of reality we need to evaluate may have an entirely different relationship to a different set of desires and that same part of reality. This accounts for the truth of relativism, however it doesn't underwrite subjectivism. Someone who asserts there is a relationship between their desires ( brain states) and an objective part of reality must be talking about things that exist else we can dismiss their statements out of hand. So their statements are either objectively true or false depending on whether the relationships between reality and desires are objectively true or false.

I have a strong desire to ensure my children do not encounter harm. As such I do not wish other individuals to castigate them as being evil. This is because this could lead to a culture that could meet out excessive 'discipline' and dehumanization of my children, and ultimately harm. I consider this relationship objectively true and thus I would promote a society by praise, condemnation etc which militated against such thinking, and I would consider it objectively wrong that others would think that children (in general) could be evil.