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forbidding people to love each other
RE: forbidding people to love each other
(July 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your statements about what Newton believed are particularly rich, and you might want to go do some research on what sorts of things he believed.  The guy was a complete loon, like some very smart people tend to be.  You’d be disappointed.... 

Well it's true that Newton was interested in alchemy for example. OFC smart people can have erroneous beliefs/positions. But such beliefs are usually related to mundane subjects like the interpretation of some natural phenomenon, not beliefs about ultimate reality, which are -we can assume- something that these people very carefully thought about.

Gödel even attempted a mathematical proof of God, a formulation of Anselm's variant of the ontological argument:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del...ical_proof

And some fools here are trying to convince me Gödel is a moron because he believed in God

(July 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Here in the us, the state authors laws informed by representatives of the people.  We don’t need a god for that.

Scientific laws, for their part, are descriptive.  Don’t need gods for those either.

If scientific laws are descriptive, they describe a universe that is in accordance with these laws. This universe still needs an explanation (according to the principle of sufficient reason, as it's usually called) and a lawgiver is by definition a better explanation of a universe following laws than some ordinary natural cause.
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forbidding people to love each other - by Fake Messiah - June 30, 2021 at 3:28 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 3:40 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 5:17 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 5:43 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 5:21 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 5:40 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Ranjr - June 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 5:28 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 5:38 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 5:41 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 6:16 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 6:14 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 6:21 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 6:31 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 6:51 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 7:10 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 6:41 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 6:55 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 7:05 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 7:19 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 7:10 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 7:29 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 7:40 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:12 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 7:52 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 8:09 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:30 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:54 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:01 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Ravenshire - June 30, 2021 at 11:07 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 8:21 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 8:35 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:36 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:43 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 8:56 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 8:54 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 10:19 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:03 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:15 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 9:06 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:32 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 9:25 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:49 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 9:54 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 10:16 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 10:39 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 10:45 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 10:47 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - June 30, 2021 at 10:49 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Astreja - July 1, 2021 at 2:32 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 10:48 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 10:51 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 6:22 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 11:16 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Astreja - July 3, 2021 at 12:28 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 3, 2021 at 9:38 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Astreja - July 4, 2021 at 12:45 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - June 30, 2021 at 10:54 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Ranjr - July 1, 2021 at 10:45 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 1, 2021 at 5:56 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 6:37 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 7:17 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Brian37 - July 6, 2021 at 12:57 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 8:45 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Fireball - July 2, 2021 at 9:31 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Brian37 - July 3, 2021 at 7:10 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Drich - July 2, 2021 at 12:16 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Drich - July 2, 2021 at 3:04 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Fireball - July 3, 2021 at 11:02 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Brian37 - July 4, 2021 at 1:51 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Brian37 - July 2, 2021 at 6:47 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 2, 2021 at 6:26 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 2, 2021 at 10:48 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Fireball - July 2, 2021 at 11:06 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 2, 2021 at 10:51 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 3, 2021 at 2:09 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Astreja - July 3, 2021 at 2:44 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by R00tKiT - July 3, 2021 at 10:54 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 4, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 6, 2021 at 1:20 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Astreja - July 6, 2021 at 1:41 pm
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 18, 2021 at 7:18 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Rev. Rye - July 18, 2021 at 8:56 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by Fake Messiah - September 16, 2021 at 1:23 am
RE: forbidding people to love each other - by no one - July 18, 2021 at 11:38 am

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