(November 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Well it's not Muslims that are making this claim on their own, the Quran basically says if your truthful of Quran being fabricated, you should bring a chapter like it. In other words, the only way to assert Quran is untrue, is to bring a chapter like it.
I think this was revealed as a challenge for the Arabs who were doubting the truthfulness of the Quran. They were thinking that Muhammad was secretly plagiarizing from somewhere or thought that he was lying and that he actually knew how to read and write beautiful poetry. But they couldn't find any evidence of that. Furthermore, no one could even write a chapter similar to the Quranic style. So, I think the Quran is only saying that if you can't emulate the Quran, even after knowing the Arabic language, then this is an argument against all the people who used to say that Muhammad was the author of the Quran. It doesn't have to mean that that the Quran is definitely true if this cannot be done. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my understanding of that particular verse.
(November 10, 2011 at 4:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Now the thing is the Quran says Unjust as in hell while believers are in heaven, so saying "thalimoon" excludes believers. However, if it bothers you can substitute "Kaffiroon" for it, but I didn't want to put it, because it can be argued it's copying a line from Suratal Kafferoon.
Sorry, I didn't understand what is your point exactly. I mean, why would I want to substitute a different word for "thalimoon"? Just to make it rhyme or something?
