[Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.

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Is it difficult for you to understand, as a hadithist, that a non-hadithist isn't concerned by what concerns you, even if you demand that everyone -be- concerned?   They simply aren't.  That's what reform looks like. 

Seriously, Islam is the last religion anyone can even possibly dream to "reform", whatever reform is supposed to mean. In a nutshell, Muslims imitate Muhammad's doings and follow his sayings, so, unless one has a way to travel in time and somehow change what Muhammad did, Islam will stay as it is forever. That's what Islam is by definition, following someone's past actions.

Is it difficult for you to understand, as a hadithist, that a non-hadithist isn't concerned by what concerns you, even if you demand that everyone -be- concerned?   They simply aren't.  That's what reform looks like.  A non hadithist doesn't believe that hadith are necessary to islam,

A non-hadithist believes the Qur'an is necessary to Islam. They try to apply what's in the Qur'an, they find unsurmountable challenges => non-hadithism fails. You have evidence of that in the OP's thread. Go back and read what he wrote, he brought up the 5 pillars !! Where are the 5 pillars in the Qur'an ? Nowhere. Winter knows that his view of Islam is garbage because without the 5 pillars, he has no way to even define the word "Muslim" -someone who practices the 5 pillars or is trying to do them. One of the 5 pillars is prayer, and the Qur'an tells the non-hadithist there is a middle prayer, so the total number of prayers can be any odd number of prayers, and here the non-hadithist is simply stuck without additiional information.

In this thread, Winter tried to write something about the Hajj -one of the 5 pillars- and was quickly forced to borrow from the hadiths and mention the stoning of the devil -another ritual that one doesn't find in the Qur'an- this looks very bad for a non-hadithist like Winter.

You're free of course to arbitrarily choose an odd number of prayer and a personal way to apply the rituals mentioned in the Qur'an, but in this case, you would be following your head, not Muhammad.