RE: An infinite progress
September 2, 2021 at 9:02 am
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2021 at 9:12 am by HappySkeptic.)
(September 2, 2021 at 12:50 am)FortyTwo Wrote: THAT being said . . . why? Why is your view of the universe, no, of the Cosmos correct?
The major objection you all seem to raise is the infinite regress. What about the infinite progress? If everything that is designed requires a designer more complex than itself, how does that not imply an infinitely and complex creator?
Infinite regress is the argument that theists use, not atheists. They argue that infinite regress must end, and that end is a god. The complexity part only comes in because god is claimed to actually design and know and control everything, and therefore must be more complex than his creation -- therefore being a hugely complex thing itself. How did it come into being?
Atheists will have different views. For myself, I'm not even sure that infinite regress is impossible, and I'm not sure that our logic even works when we don't understand what time is (does it go in circles?). We don't even know if our view of causality makes sense before the Big Bang.
If there is something primeval at the start of time, my guess is that it is not infinitely complex, but rather extremely simple -- perhaps the simplest of all things that can propagate itself. Complexity emerges from the simple.
Such a thing doesn't seem to be worth our time praying to.