(September 24, 2021 at 12:41 pm)brewer Wrote:(September 24, 2021 at 12:20 pm)ayost Wrote: So the idea that "Christians don't live this way" so Christianity is untrue or unnecessary or whatever the conclusion is doesn't make sense.
1. "Christians" is a category, a group, so broad that it lacks meaning. It's like saying "white people". That's too broad of a category.
2. Does the OP know all Christians? Does he know the percentage of good to bad Christians?
3. Why choose to label Christians by the bad ones. I don't say "you know all of those murdering atheists" because Stalin was an atheist.
4. If you learned about and understood Christianity you would know the answer to this question. But you haven't so you don't.
But I think the more interesting idea is morality comes from conscious choice and should be grounded in philosophy. Can we talk about that?
Before you jump on the 'you're just christian bashing' band wagon maybe you should walk a mile in atheist shoes. I doubt you can imagine what it's like to be the 10% living in a 90% society. We get it from both the good and bad christians.
#4, you think we're not well educated on christianity? Don't look now but your ignorance of atheists and agnostics is showing.
I live in a prominently christian area. Most are OK but often unthinking and behave like everyone is a christian and are often offensive without knowing it. Enough of the others become offensive as soon as they know I'm atheist but stupidly believe that they are trying to 'save' me.
Most of the christians I know have a false sense of superiority and entitlement when it comes to atheists. I think you probably fit into this group.
Honestly, I haven't met a garden variety atheist that can accurately articulate a Christian position. There are some apostate Christian scholars that can, but most lay people can't.
Most atheists I meet are aggressive and insulting, but I don't lump you with them.
Which brings me to the the question why would you throw me an insult about superiority and entitlement? I have only been kind. lol