Why does science always upstage God?

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I did not say atheism leads to materialism which leads evolution which leads to humanism.

You said atheism is a single line item. I said no it is not, it permeates everything in your worldview. Your worldview is influenced by your atheism.

And I'm sorry, you think you're unique in the world, but you say the same things all of the other atheists I talk to say, just with a slight Grand Nudger nuance.

There is an worldview that stems from atheism, even if you come to these conclusions on your own, and you have not demonstrated to me that you have escaped that wroldview.

You'll never hear me say, for example..that we shouldn't write a gods laws into our own because gods don't exist.  Or that I accept biology because gods don't exist.  Or that there's only one kind of stuff because gods don't exist.  I think that you're falling into the rut of insisting an untrue thing be true - and it's not going to help you understand atheism or challenge your beliefs.  Your god could come down and tell me he can't stand hookers and that won't change my position on the matter, either.

You might have to accept, at some point, that my worldview is typical for a person in my society, and even typical to other people in my society who also consider themselves christians.  I don;t actually think that I'm particularly unique (pretty much the opposite..I enjoy being a human cog in a massive grinding wheel, interchangeable, replaceable).  I don't know what you hope to accomplish by continually insisting this, above..beyond trying to salvage some prepared points that you showed up with that would have failed anyway.

I didn't say you consciously think those things because gods don't exist. They are more like default consequences. So take biology for example: God doesn't exist so we weren't created by God so our origin necessarily comes from nature and biology and the prevailing theory is evolution. Evolution satisfies your worldview and so its easy to accept.

Like that, not like a robot, "I am atheist. Must believe science."

Dude, I started by saying that presuppositions drive worldview and no one is a neutral truth seeker. That was prepared, but you drove the rest of this conversation.

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40,000 is a number ignorant people use. Is that more clear?

He died on a Friday.

Or that only you consider ignorant, superior much?

Or Wednesday, or Thursday. And this is coming from 'christian' scholars. 

Oh crap, inconsistencies. Maybe it's from the ignorant ones.

You'll have to be more specific. You barely said anything. You didn't quote any scholars or state the inconsistency in a way i can respond to it. Can you give me more?