RE: Why does science always upstage God?
September 24, 2021 at 7:21 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2021 at 8:56 pm by brewer.)
(September 24, 2021 at 6:19 pm)ayost Wrote: It’s not an interpretation here, it’s translation. The original manuscripts were written in Greek. Not English, not Chinese, not Russian. They weren’t written by modern scholars. Scholars don’t determine what the Bible says. So the only thing that matters is the original Greek manuscripts. The original Greek manuscripts only say Friday. The rest are theories and they are theories that don’t hold water. I’m sorry but that’s demonstrably true.
Many people write about their own lives and the lives of others decades after the person is gone. What does that matter?
The problem is the people reading. The writings have no contradictions.
40,000 is a dumb number only used by the most extreme people. No moderate person believes that number.
I’m not responding to everything you posted. Like I said, these things have already been written about time and time again. The reason you don’t know the response is because you e never taken the time to look or you would know the response. That means you’re willfully ignorant. I’m not going to do your research for you. Besides, you’re not listening anyways.
A translation is an interpretation of a word(s). Stop doing the apologist two step.
The amount of time, it matters because the amount of time between action/event and documentation allows for error. Every played the telephone game?
Nope, the no contradiction position is your assertion, nothing more. If the bible were all that you claim it to be then any literate person should be able to read it and come to the same or at least similar conclusions as everyone else, without anything additional. A book by (and I'm convinced you consider it the actual word of god) or about god should not need human intervention to be understood. We are, after all, talking about an all powerful, all seeing and infinitely wise god right? Would an entity with those attributes need to have his words and meanings explained?
I'll give you another dumb number, 1.............. get it?
Tell you what, I'll take the time to research if you can do one thing, provide concrete evidence that god(s) exist in reality, evidence that I and others will accept. I won't consider argument, anecdote or abstractions evidence. Until you can do that I will continue to consider god(s) a human mental conception, nothing more. That means there is nothing worth researching, the same as many many other mental concoctions. I could give you a list of them but my guess is that your response would be "but god is different" which I have heard before. Actually everything you have said here I've heard before in one form or another, for over 50 years.
Final thought: You state that you came here to learn, but your initial post, and behavior following, indicated something else. I believe what you really want is for atheists to validate your beliefs as reasonable and/or rational and somehow based in fact. When I told you that I believed that they were not, you began the apologist justification/rationalization dance. Quite frankly I don't really care what you or other christians believe. The only time I get bent out of shape with christians (or other believers) is when they tell me that my atheist (no god) position is wrong or that I need to validate and/or accept their belief. I'll accept that your belief exists but don't accept the belief itself.
I don't consider you a bad person for believing. And admit that christians do a lot of good things, things that might not get accomplished without their community. You just have that one bad motivation that I've seen, coming to an atheist and insisting on validation. You should realize that you're not the first or different.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.