Atheists in church

[Spongebob]

IDK, it looks like a bunch of people immediately pointed out that you'd floated the naturalistic fallacy.  If a moral fact is a natural fact in this sense, then kinky consensual sex and rape are both good, as both are natural facts.  In fact...there's absolutely no example of bad to be found anywhere in nature, in this view, consistently held.

And why didn't I put it that way?  Good summary.

@Ahriman Schooled again.