(November 13, 2011 at 10:32 pm)toro Wrote: Both are valid premises unless you are assuming the outcome to the statement at question.What am I'm saying is that we know God is possible while we don't know if it's possible that God doesn't exist. This is what I'm saying. We know God is possible in possible world W. But we don't know for sure if there exists a possible world W without God. Perhaps existence is impossible without God. However God being possible in some possible world W, to me is obviously possible
Quote:You cannot say "it is impossible for God to not-exist" and still pretend you are leaving the question open. If God's non-existence is presupposed to be impossible, that means you have presupposed God exists. You can't have it both ways. Either you assume God exists/doesn't exist, or you have no answer.
The argument shows if God is possible, then he exists necessarily. I don't think that is just asserting God exists, it's rather concluding based on God's necessary nature, if it's possible such a being exists in any possible world W, then he necessarily exists.
However I would say while it's obvious God is possible in a possible world W, it's not obvious a world is a possible without God. We know the former is true, while we don't know the latter is true.
