Why does science always upstage God?

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I believe the Bible because it's true and I am convinced that the evidence supports it's truth. 

I want to address this single comment from your long post and I'm not taking it out of context.  Most of your argument seems to be based on this one precept, that the Bible is true and you believe it, so your philosophy stems from that point of perceived truth.  But here's the problem, there is an avalanche of evidence that you are ignoring.  This "Bible" that you hold to be so truthful is not a "book", not written by the people who it is said to have written it and is nothing but a collection of disparate religious manifestos authored over decades if not centuries.  Large swaths of Biblical stories and anecdotes are borrowed from previous religions, such as Zoroastrianism and previous cultures, such as Kemet (ancient Egyptians).  There are documented studies that assert this.  There's the dead sea scrolls which contain contradictory religious stories.  These writings and possibly thousands more were buried and/or destroyed by the early Christians in an attempt to curate a religion of their liking.  There is the trajectory that Paul sent Christianity on that simply did not exist before.  There are many borrowed concepts from older religions that were clearly adapted for Christian purposes.  And there is the obvious political contamination by the Romans that so shaped Christianity.  My question is how in the world can you be so confident about a text with all of these clearly defined problems?

Everything you said is demonstrably false. Like untrue and easily shown to be untrue.

not written by the people who it is said to have written it
Unprovable and these ideas don't come from any new manuscripts or archeological evidence.

nothing but a collection of disparate religious manifestos authored over decades if not centuries
You don't even know if its decades or centuries. That shows at least some ignorance on your part. You didn't even bother to Google which one it is.

Biblical stories and anecdotes are borrowed from previous religions, such as Zoroastrianism and previous cultures, such as Kemet
Only in the MOST superficial and anecdotal ways. Not in a deep, meaningful way. Nether one of those religions tell the story of God entering into His creation to save it.

dead sea scrolls which contain contradictory religious stories
The Old Testament texts that were found in the Dead Sea scrolls were 1000 years older than any manuscripts we had, plus they only strengthened the reliability of the transmission of the Old Testament.

possibly thousands more were buried and/or destroyed by the early Christians in an attempt to curate a religion of their liking
I can't speculate on phantom texts that may have existed and may have been destroyed or the motivations of the people that destroyed them. Good theory. Good luck proving it.
The Jewish scripture cannon was well established before the Dead Sea scrolls were gathered.

the trajectory that Paul sent Christianity on that simply did not exist before
I am familiar with unbelieving liberal scholarship but these ideas just aren't grounded in anything solid. Paul basically formed the early church. You can read 1st century Christians and see the same things in their writings.

many borrowed concepts from older religions that were clearly adapted for Christian purposes
Again, I know what you're talking about. This is speculation on motivations and in ancient religions when there are similarities they are only very, very surface, they are not deep.

I pulled this from a website that was dogging Christianity for copying Kemet and their Trinity of Asar, Aset, and Heru:

"Like many Egyptian gods, these divine beings started out as humans. Asar was a revered king who was murdered by a usurper but became king of the afterlife, or spiritual realm. His wife, Aset, took their son, Heru, into hiding, and Heru eventually returned to reclaim the earthly throne."

I'm sorry, that is absolutely nothing like the eternal triune God of the Bible. Accusing Christians for stealing this and changing it is just speculation. Pure speculation.

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I said I would table the idea of suppression because you reject it. Do you want it tabled or do you want to explore it?

As far as a world in which God exists and the Bible isn't true I want to note that there's somewhat of a nuance in the way you asked your question. I am not arguing for god. I am arguing for the triune God of the Bible. That's important. You can make any claim you want about what another god would do in whatever circumstance. I'm not arguing from a particular source for a particular God. This isn't from the dome.

Assuming the God of the Bible exists I would say no, there is no world in which the God of the Bible exists and the Bible (or any of it's claims) are false.

Here's why...

When we talk about God (in the Bible) He is perfect and His ways are perfect. So when he chooses to act, He acts perfectly. That means that, whether we like it or not, the world we live in reflects perfectly what God intended it to. When I say perfectly I mean precisely, exactly what God wanted. I don't mean perfect as in no evil. He didn't create the best available option. He created precisely what He wanted. So in that context, another creation with different outcomes or events or standards or truths would then have to either be more perfect or less perfect than this creation.

If He could create a  more perfect creation that means God created not exactly what He wanted in this creation.
If He created a less prefect creation that would mean God is settling for something that's not exactly what He wanted. I already established that the God of the Bible is prefect and acts perfectly, so to act imperfectly would be for Him to act against His own nature, which makes no sense.

So no, there is no world where the God of the Bible exists and the Bible isn't true. What we have here, in this creation, is the only way.

So, if you make a claim that is contrary to the Bible, either your claim is false or the Bible's claim is false.

Perhaps the bible isn't a reflection of God.  Why would you believe that the bible is necessarily of God?

In this creation, according to this God who revealed Himself through Jesus's life, death, and resurrection as written about in Bible, this Bible is necessarily from this God.