(October 8, 2021 at 6:09 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Take Eusebius' word for who wrote the gospels? The guy who made pious fraud a daily practice. Next you'll tell me Luke was Paul's doctor.
I encourage everyone interested in the foundations of christianity to read the 2nd century apologists to get an idea of how all over the place the religion was at the time. It took them 3 centuries to get their story straight. We're lucky they preserved writers like Irenaeus so we have an idea of how disorganized and combative early christian preachers were. You'd think if it was all based on one guy, sent from heaven, telling his followers the word of god, it would be cohesive from the start.
That's the problem with heresies. It's like George Carlin's 7 words... you have to say them to know what they are.
The last page of this thread reminds me why I like this place so much... people doing their best to draw more accurate conclusions using facts and information.
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Still, ayost thought people were trying to change their mind. Nope. Just asking important questions. Doing some critical thinking. If Mohammed actually saw what he saw, and every eyewitness account is real (including Arjuna's vision of Krishna and everything else) then IDK if Christianity is where a reasonable person would end up. There is some kind of quasi-Muslim prophet who declared all religions true. Maybe ayost wants to read up on that.
But I bet ayost doesn't want to read up on that. It was an argument made to sidestep the skepticism about believing eyewitness accounts. But they failed to follow the logic of that to its natural conclusion.
