(October 11, 2021 at 7:07 pm)ayost Wrote:(October 11, 2021 at 5:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And that is why they commit suicide.
Like TGN said, killing does involve increasing the amount of suffering and I don't think anyone can have the authority to ascertain if the suffering due to abuse is greater than the suffering due to being killed. That should be left to the criteria of the person in the particular situation.
And, since you like the parallel, it's like abortion. Leave it to the person who is in the particular situation (and I mean the potential mother).
So an we all see how your morality is completely subjective. There’s so many unknowns and variables and there’s no way to know what provides the most suffering or the least suffering. You’re literally just making it up as you go. This is the opposite of an objective morality. It’s a mish mash of whatever feels right at the time. Which is fine, I just need you to be consistent and commit all the way. In a world where morality is subjective you have no right to complain about anything that anybody does in your worldview. You will complain and you do know right from wrong, but again, I maintain that’s because God has created you in his image and written His law on your heart.
If you want to win the argument just say yes, killing foster kids reduces suffering. At least then you’d be consistent with your own worldview and there’s nothing I could say to it.
(October 11, 2021 at 6:45 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a bunch of yapping either way.
Who, upon meeting the bloodgod, would suddenly think "well, fuck me, I was wrong about gods existing. I'm now utterly compelled by godlaw to be an asshole. I've got rocks, who's got babbies!"
Nobody who wouldn't have dashed em on the rocks already, that's who.
Instead of trying to honestly approach the debate, let’s use childish sarcasm. Because I don’t live in an atheist world I can’t do that. I have to have integrity and treat you with respect.
Yeah, you have really shown a lot of respect to people.
Do you always lie to yourself like that? I really think you believe it.