(October 28, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Ahriman Wrote: The only real "meaning", as far as humans will ever know, is to enjoy being alive. Any higher meaning is God's business, not ours.
You really had to add that second sentence.
Because I don't believe in gods, I'm unable to accept that god (any god) has any kind of business.
Unless you are unable to demonstrate your god exists, your beliefs are no more than personal superstitions.
NO?
Jesus himself is recorded as saying; John 20:29 "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. ." (KJV)
Jesus is asking for blind faith. To believe without seeing is superstition.
If you happen to be a protestant you also have Martin Luther father of the reformation, who said: "“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”
These unfounded claims about god(s) ad infinitum tend to go a bit flat after one has seen/heard/read them a couple of hundred times. I've been an atheist for about thirty years. That was only after an often painful journey of twenty years.
For most people I've run across, their religious beliefs are an accident of birth. They were simply absorbed, painlessly, without effort, before the age of reason. Such beliefs are seldom if ever seriously questioned by most people I've run across.
A lifetime observation is that the average atheist has more intellectual honesty and integrity in his/her little finger than most believers have in their entire body.