(November 17, 2021 at 4:08 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Also, as far as Christians go, this is not in line with what the Bible says. The idea that a disembodied soul goes somewhere is borrowed from the Greeks. As far as Christian mythology goes, on the last day every person will be resurrected (a bodily resurrection). Then they'll go to God for judgment. God will either cast them into the fire or grant them eternal life. So, according to Christianity, nobody is watching over anybody from Heaven.
That’s correct.
John 3:13 KING JAMES VERSION
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.
^^^^^No human has gone to heaven yet.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KING JAMES VERSION
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. {4:16} For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: {4:17} Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
^^^^^When day X comes, dead will become alive and they will float up to the heaven.
Then the alive people will float up to the heaven.
Except, see Revelation 14:4
Revelation 14:4 KING JAMES VERSION
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.
^^^^^Also, you have to be VIRGIN.
Starting from Revelation 7:1, you have the 144,000 thing (12 tribes of jews and 12,000 people are picked up from each tribe)
Revelation 7:4 KING JAMES VERSION
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
^^^^^So, only 144,000 jews from certain tribes are going to heaven.
Most christians are not going to heaven.
There is a line somewhere about the meek inheriting the Earth.
I think this is what jehova’s witnesses preach. They think they will be on Earth. I hear that they don’t discuss that thing about 144,000 jews.
You can also read Revelation 21:1 and the lines after it.
Revelation 21:1 KING JAMES VERSION
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
^^^^^So, the space-heaven will be gone and a new one created.
The Earth will be gone and a new one created. There was something wrong with those atoms/molecules, so a new one is needed.
And then, there will be a new Jerusalem. The rest of the save humans will live in that city. There will never be nighttime. You don’t need candles or LED lights. No need for street lights, no need for lightbulbs for cars.