(November 18, 2021 at 10:44 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(November 18, 2021 at 10:18 am)T.J. Wrote: I find it interesting that even the Catholic Church accepts Evolution as a fact, but of course they put God at the front of it as being the cause for everything and the events of evolution just being the explanation even though this greatly contradicts their bible. But at least they're willing to acknowledge evolution to an extent. That's progress right?
Catholic Church has neither officially affirmed nor denied the biological evolution, although it did reject the evolution of humans in Pope Pius XII’s 1950 encyclical “Humani Generis.”
It seems today that the Pope lets Catholics personally choose whether they will accept it or not, so that is why there are still many Catholics, including those in the clergy, that don't accept evolution.
At the catholic school I attended in the late 1950's to early 1960's, evolution was accepted as true. We were also taught the book Of Exodus is not meant to be taken literally. The justification we were given for accepting evolution was that we simply have no idea of the duration of each of seven days of creation in Genesis.(could be billions/millions of years for all we know) That evolution was the result of god's plan. At the time, we all went "Right. Glad that's settled " The good brothers who taught me were not strong theologians. On asking a curly theological question, the reply was " Oh, that's a mystery of faith. We just believe it" . I kid you not.
All that sounds dandy-ish. Underneath all that is the simple truth that the church has always been anti science. It accepts scientific views if and only if they are able to reconcile them with dogma. If not, they are rejected outright until such time as they have no choice. Galileo and his heliocentric view of the solar system comes to mind, as well as the burning alive of Giordano Bruno. Today, the church still insists that a foetus is a person from the moment of conception, and opposes stem cell research. I also remember Pope John Paul 11 railing against moral relativism.
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Giordano Bruno (/dʒɔːrˈdɑːnoʊ ˈbruːnoʊ/; Italian: [dʒorˈdaːno ˈbruːno]; Latin: Iordanus Brunus Nolanus; born Filippo Bruno, January or February 1548 – 17 February 1600) was an Italian Dominican friar, philosopher, mathematician, poet, cosmological theorist, and Hermetic occultist.[3] He is known for his cosmological theories, which conceptually extended the then-novel Copernican model. He proposed that the stars were distant suns surrounded by their own planets, and he raised the possibility that these planets might foster life of their own, a cosmological position known as cosmic pluralism. He also insisted that the universe is and could have no "center".----------------------
-----During the seven years of his trial in Rome, Bruno was held in confinement, lastly in the Tower of Nona. Some important documents about the trial are lost, but others have been preserved, among them a summary of the proceedings that was rediscovered in 1940.[31] The numerous charges against Bruno, based on some of his books as well as on witness accounts, included blasphemy, immoral conduct, and heresy in matters of dogmatic theology, and involved some of the basic doctrines of his philosophy and cosmology. Luigi Firpo speculates the charges made against Bruno by the Roman Inquisition were:[32]
- holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith and speaking against it and its ministers;
- holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about the Trinity, divinity of Christ, and Incarnation;
- holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith pertaining to Jesus as the Christ;
- holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith regarding the virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus;
- holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about both Transubstantiation and the Mass;
- claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity;
- believing in metempsychosis and in the transmigration of the human soul into brutes;
- dealing in magics and divination.----------------
Giordano Bruno - Wikipedia