(November 18, 2011 at 4:15 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: A summary of a conservation yesterday between some hopelessly convinced individual who shall remain nameless, and myself:
Quote:Mr X: "Look Welsh cake, if you don't believe in Christ and acknowledge him as saviour you'll go to hell."
WC: "But what about babies, infants whose minds are too young to accommodate these beliefs? You're saying they'll go to hell too?"
Mr X: "No. Everyone will know the truth after the resurrection and confess Jesus is Lord and every knee shall bow in the afterlife."
WC: "So, if we're all destined to meet up with Jesus in the next life and have little choice but to acknowledge his existence, why the redundant "hell threat" in this life then?"
He couldn't answer. I did nothing but simply question his own beliefs/dogma.
I can imagine how this conversation might go forward, if only Mr. X knew the right fundy things to say:
Mr. X: "That’s an easy one! God in his infinite wisdom, knows who would have accepted Jesus before they died, but didn’t get a chance to because they: died as babies; or, were indoctrinated into a Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, etc, etc, religion; or, were retarded and couldn’t understand the concept. Those people will all be “saved” on resurrection day! But, if you were a normal person and chose not to believe in Jesus like you should have, then you will go to hell."
Quote:Is arguing with apologists is often as mind-numbingly tedious as it is pointless?
Yes.
"If there are gaps they are in our knowledge, not in things themselves." Chapman Cohen
"Shit-apples don't fall far from the shit-tree, Randy." Mr. Lahey
"Shit-apples don't fall far from the shit-tree, Randy." Mr. Lahey
