(December 16, 2021 at 7:48 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(December 16, 2021 at 7:26 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Well, many have a rather limited concept of what constitutes 'science'. I would label any subject that uses the scientific method as a science.
In particular, there is no predefined notion of 'material' or 'physical'. All that is required is that hypotheses be testable by observation.
Now, there are subjects not subject to this method. For example, mathematics is not based on observation, but is instead a formal theory based on axioms and deduction from those axioms. It has a different test for the reliability of its ideas. But that makes it correspondingly limited in what it can say about the 'real world'.
I am more than willing to accept that other subjects may have other methods for eliminating falsehoods. But the two methods I know that work (hypothesis testing by observation, and proof in a formal system) don't seem to work in metaphysics. And, as you have admitted, there is no accepted way to eliminate falsehoods from metaphysics. That lack means that is it a subject of opinion and not of knowledge. It is closer to aesthetics than it is to science: a matter of taste and not a matter of objective fact.
Given your strong commitment to your own metaphysical beliefs, I won't attempt to argue.
I am curious what you would say and how you would justify your own metaphysical beliefs.
I am continue to read Hart. What bothers me is the assumption that existence needs to be 'grounded' in something. What could that even mean? The focus on 'contingency' (which seems to be quite different than simply being 'physically caused') makes little sense to me. In what way is existence of anything a contingent thing? That seems to me to be a category error.