RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
November 21, 2011 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm by Norfolk And Chance.)
(November 21, 2011 at 7:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Theists can fail too, sure. Atheists don't have a monopoly on that. I hope that cheers you up Norf.
Only 6% of the uk population are regular church goers, and 3% of those committed to their beliefs according to Christians. Therefore: Chances are you're ignorant of Xtianity. Evidence would certainly lead me tio that conclusion. Would that be correct?
Ignorant of the numbers maybe (I thought belief in god was about 44%, wasn't talking about church numbers, or christians specifically), but I can't be totally ignorant of what christians think and believe, given we get told about it every day.
(November 21, 2011 at 7:27 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Nonetheless, there is no logical argument which can invalidate the existence of Santa Claus as a real actual person. If you think you've found one, I will gladly show you how it is wrong.
Santa Claus is a fictional character, this is a logical reason to know he's not real.
Quote:Take a course in philosophy. You'll soon learn that it is impossible to state anything on the absolute truth values of the claims of the existence of Santa or unicorns. That doesn't mean we should believe they exist; on the contrary, since there is no evidence for their existence, we should have profound disbelieve, but we cannot go any further without surrendering our critical thinking.
I won'tl be taking a course in philosophy any time soon. If philosophy thinks that stating you KNOW santa not to be real is "surrendering your critical thinking" then philosophy is not about truth but pointless pondering.
(November 21, 2011 at 7:27 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Fictional because they have only ever appeared so far in stories. However, if we captured one tomorrow, you wouldn't be so smug, would you?
Hypothetical question asking of my reaction to an event that will never, ever happen. Not ever.
Do you really believe that a person cannot know a fictional creature is not real?
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.