RE: Near-Death Experiences (NDEs), Souls, and Atheism
November 22, 2011 at 1:06 am
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2011 at 1:11 am by Willpower.)
(November 22, 2011 at 12:52 am)IATIA Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm)Willpower Wrote: ...it is inexplicable how they could come back with such vivid accounts.
Perhaps "inexplicable" for a 'god dulled' brain, but for the truly enlightened, there have been several explanations within this thread to account for this 'experience'. Forget god and let some science seep into that brain of yours and you will see how simple it all this is.
Enough with the ad-hominem attacks. If you are so wise, can you explain it?
(November 21, 2011 at 9:05 pm)Epimethean Wrote: So, to restate your premises:
"I believe that near death experiences occur."
"I believe that near death experiences somehow come at brain death, but that people 'get better' because of god."
"I believe that near death experiences are evidence of god."
Now, the rational responses.
Thinking, rational people tend to see near death experiences as being tricks of the mind played during trauma."
Thinking, rational people tend to see that near death experiences cannot come post-mortem, which occurs with brain death.
Thinking, rational people tend to see near death experiences in conjunction with god inasmuch as they are delusions played by the brain on individuals.
In response to your assertions, read my response to Shell B. in Post #32 and my response to. I discussed the faults with that sort of conjecture.
"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." (1 Peter 3:15)
The "Test of Life" is not whether you can blindly "worship and praise God”. The test in life is whether or not you can live your life according to virtue, and live a life that reverberates waves of positive energy, building people up, as Jesus His son perfectly exemplified. We can choose lives of virtue as is God's will, or to choose lives of selfishness, arrogance, and other vices which have led to the plague of humanity we have found on earth. If people choose vice, that is their choice. Do not judge them (1 Corinthians 5:12 ). But He sent Jesus as a prime example of virtue so that we could see the light and choose it, instead of poisoning the earth with lives of darkness. Many, including even "Christians," have failed in this regard. But Christianity is supposed to be the message of love, hope, faith, unity, and virtue, that creates heaven on Earth.
The "Test of Life" is not whether you can blindly "worship and praise God”. The test in life is whether or not you can live your life according to virtue, and live a life that reverberates waves of positive energy, building people up, as Jesus His son perfectly exemplified. We can choose lives of virtue as is God's will, or to choose lives of selfishness, arrogance, and other vices which have led to the plague of humanity we have found on earth. If people choose vice, that is their choice. Do not judge them (1 Corinthians 5:12 ). But He sent Jesus as a prime example of virtue so that we could see the light and choose it, instead of poisoning the earth with lives of darkness. Many, including even "Christians," have failed in this regard. But Christianity is supposed to be the message of love, hope, faith, unity, and virtue, that creates heaven on Earth.