RE: Near-Death Experiences (NDEs), Souls, and Atheism
November 22, 2011 at 6:40 am
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2011 at 6:45 am by Epimethean.)
(November 22, 2011 at 1:06 am)Willpower Wrote:(November 22, 2011 at 12:52 am)IATIA Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm)Willpower Wrote: ...it is inexplicable how they could come back with such vivid accounts.
Perhaps "inexplicable" for a 'god dulled' brain, but for the truly enlightened, there have been several explanations within this thread to account for this 'experience'. Forget god and let some science seep into that brain of yours and you will see how simple it all this is.
Enough with the ad-hominem attacks. If you are so wise, can you explain it?
(November 21, 2011 at 9:05 pm)Epimethean Wrote: So, to restate your premises:
"I believe that near death experiences occur."
"I believe that near death experiences somehow come at brain death, but that people 'get better' because of god."
"I believe that near death experiences are evidence of god."
Now, the rational responses.
Thinking, rational people tend to see near death experiences as being tricks of the mind played during trauma."
Thinking, rational people tend to see that near death experiences cannot come post-mortem, which occurs with brain death.
Thinking, rational people tend to see near death experiences in conjunction with god inasmuch as they are delusions played by the brain on individuals.
In response to your assertions, read my response to Shell B. in Post #32 and my response to. I discussed the faults with that sort of conjecture.
Not in any convincing way did you do so. Your contention remains scientifically absurd and, so, simply more religious mumbo-jumbo. 50% of patients listed "Awareness of being dead?" WTF? They weren't dead, or they would have had no such awareness. Dreams can be convincing, too, but they are not reality. This is silliness, and a great many people here have been trying to show you that the religious bias you are applying to this is contaminating any possible scientific credibility you could earn by admitting that this sort of event is not true death and unlikely to have any connection to any god or gods whatsoever.
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