RE: History of abolishing God from the society
February 25, 2022 at 10:28 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2022 at 10:41 pm by Ferrocyanide.)
Fake Messiah, I think you are missing an important word here:
Science.
People use to think that certain phenomenon was caused by the gods. Such as the weather, heavy rain, flood, lightning, earthquakes, disease, famine (in other words, scary things).
When they were scared, they thought some intelligence was trying to scare them, such as some god or their dead ancestors.
Are their any cave painting, writings on rocks, clay, papyrus, goat skin that try to explain these phenomenon? I don’t think so.
When did such notions change?
When people were curious enough to look for the non-god answer.
Once such an answer was developed (such as the hydrological cycle), there is no going back. There isn’t a single case where science gets tossed and superstition takes it place again.
I think the 17xx was a big blow to the christian religion. Possibly even the 16xx with Galileo and friends (astronomy). The 17xx seem to have many people join into the science endeavor. There was the notion of elements and element after element was being discovered, and various chemicals, so chemistry was getting a hard push. Eventually, physics and medicine received a good push in the 18xx.
Science has advanced quite a lot while christianity is at a standstill.
On the christian side, not many take the Genesis story as literally true anymore and instead, they choose science.
Once you understand the value of science, it is unlikely that you will toss it and return to believing in Genesis as a literal story.
Most important of all, why is christianity getting the boot? Skepticism.
Bring the evidence to back up the wild claims and then we will believe you and not a nanosecond before.
Not exactly.
It depends on how well you are doing financially.
People who tend to do well financially do not need UHC and most likely they will be against it. In order to make UHC work, there needs to be a good pool of $$$ which means there needs to be a tax burden on the rich.
Also, you might want to take the hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, medical equipment makers off the stock market.
You might also want the government to step in and pay the doctors less. Perhaps doctors should work less hours, go home and spend time on reading.
You might also want the government to step in and reduce the prices on drugs.
Of course, once you tell a person that their salary will be going down, even from 120 k$/y to 110 k$/y, they are going to be pissed.
Science.
People use to think that certain phenomenon was caused by the gods. Such as the weather, heavy rain, flood, lightning, earthquakes, disease, famine (in other words, scary things).
When they were scared, they thought some intelligence was trying to scare them, such as some god or their dead ancestors.
Are their any cave painting, writings on rocks, clay, papyrus, goat skin that try to explain these phenomenon? I don’t think so.
When did such notions change?
When people were curious enough to look for the non-god answer.
Once such an answer was developed (such as the hydrological cycle), there is no going back. There isn’t a single case where science gets tossed and superstition takes it place again.
I think the 17xx was a big blow to the christian religion. Possibly even the 16xx with Galileo and friends (astronomy). The 17xx seem to have many people join into the science endeavor. There was the notion of elements and element after element was being discovered, and various chemicals, so chemistry was getting a hard push. Eventually, physics and medicine received a good push in the 18xx.
Science has advanced quite a lot while christianity is at a standstill.
On the christian side, not many take the Genesis story as literally true anymore and instead, they choose science.
Once you understand the value of science, it is unlikely that you will toss it and return to believing in Genesis as a literal story.
Most important of all, why is christianity getting the boot? Skepticism.
Bring the evidence to back up the wild claims and then we will believe you and not a nanosecond before.
(February 25, 2022 at 5:31 pm)Belacqua Wrote: You don't ask each human what they want. They want universal health care, and they'll never get it.
Not exactly.
It depends on how well you are doing financially.
People who tend to do well financially do not need UHC and most likely they will be against it. In order to make UHC work, there needs to be a good pool of $$$ which means there needs to be a tax burden on the rich.
Also, you might want to take the hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, medical equipment makers off the stock market.
You might also want the government to step in and pay the doctors less. Perhaps doctors should work less hours, go home and spend time on reading.
You might also want the government to step in and reduce the prices on drugs.
Of course, once you tell a person that their salary will be going down, even from 120 k$/y to 110 k$/y, they are going to be pissed.