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[Serious] Ethics
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RE: Ethics
(March 2, 2022 at 5:09 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Yes, observationally equivalent theories are considered to be equivalent in science.

The basis is observation for *all* questions in science. if there is no difference in observations between two theories, they *are the same theory*.

This isn't a matter of 'not resolving' a dispute. it is a matter of saying the dispute is nonsense. Where in ethics does that happen?
I'd call discovering that any two seemingly disparate theories were observationally equivalent a resolution to the dispute as to which between them is accurate.  Pluralism is an entire set based around this observed phenomena in normative statements.  

Quote:OK, how does one find sound premises in ethics? On what basis are they declared to be sound?

No reason they can't use the same basis as science.  Empirical inquiry - so they do.  You can see this even when They Get It Wrong. That our common objections to normative statements take the form of offering, and then rejecting, an assertion to fact available to any rational observer. So, for example, when we say some horrible violent crime is bad and you shouldn't do it - we're not saying we have an opinion about it - but that there are things about it, in fact, that are badmaking. Or, conversely, in rejecting the thing as bad because it doesn't have those bad making properties.
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Ethics - by Disagreeable - March 1, 2022 at 5:22 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 1, 2022 at 5:41 am
RE: Ethics - by no one - March 1, 2022 at 6:56 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 1, 2022 at 7:59 am
RE: Ethics - by pocaracas - March 1, 2022 at 7:29 am
RE: Ethics - by Disagreeable - March 1, 2022 at 7:49 am
RE: Ethics - by pocaracas - March 1, 2022 at 8:27 am
RE: Ethics - by brewer - March 1, 2022 at 8:21 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 1, 2022 at 8:28 am
RE: Ethics - by brewer - March 1, 2022 at 8:30 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 1, 2022 at 8:31 am
RE: Ethics - by brewer - March 1, 2022 at 8:33 am
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 1, 2022 at 8:40 am
RE: Ethics - by Belacqua - March 1, 2022 at 8:44 am
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 1, 2022 at 8:59 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 1, 2022 at 10:55 am
RE: Ethics - by Disagreeable - March 3, 2022 at 6:51 pm
RE: Ethics - by DLJ - March 1, 2022 at 8:56 am
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 1, 2022 at 10:51 am
RE: Ethics - by Angrboda - March 1, 2022 at 11:45 am
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2022 at 1:13 pm
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 1, 2022 at 7:47 pm
RE: Ethics - by John 6IX Breezy - March 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm
RE: Ethics - by vulcanlogician - March 1, 2022 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ethics - by John 6IX Breezy - March 1, 2022 at 8:54 pm
RE: Ethics - by vulcanlogician - March 1, 2022 at 9:42 pm
RE: Ethics - by vulcanlogician - March 3, 2022 at 3:11 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2022 at 11:36 pm
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 2, 2022 at 9:53 am
RE: Ethics - by Belacqua - March 2, 2022 at 10:06 am
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 2, 2022 at 10:34 am
RE: Ethics - by GrandizerII - March 2, 2022 at 11:26 am
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 2, 2022 at 5:16 pm
RE: Ethics - by Angrboda - March 2, 2022 at 12:12 pm
RE: Ethics - by GrandizerII - March 2, 2022 at 4:51 pm
RE: Ethics - by AFTT47 - March 2, 2022 at 1:34 am
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 2:42 am
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 10:39 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 2, 2022 at 11:05 am
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 10:48 am
RE: Ethics - by polymath257 - March 2, 2022 at 5:09 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 11:31 am
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 5:10 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 5:21 pm
RE: Ethics - by deepend - March 23, 2022 at 7:09 pm

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