(March 11, 2022 at 7:44 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I think this is the best way for you to proceed if you want to defend mystical experiences. If I understand you correctly, even if such visions have physiological causes, that doesn't fully undermine their validity. But to claim that God obviously had a hand in making these visions transpire, that's a tough one to argue to an unbiased, undecided party.
One issue I'd have with this approach. We could say people used to think a god, Neptune, caused waves and water events. We now know how these things occur under physical laws, but that doesn't mean that Neptune *isn't* still involved in these events. The problem is that a used-to-be supernatural or divine event is now explained, but theists are still trying to insert a deity by simply saying that it is still involved in the events. We would *have* to have examples of identical events, one with deity influence and one without, so we can tell the difference, but they never offer or explain that.
