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Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
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RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
(March 12, 2022 at 1:06 am)GrandizerII Wrote: There are different levels of religious experience, Jehanne. In the OP, you seem to be suggesting that they are all due to TLE? Even the experiences of the sort that are deemed remarkable aren't necessarily due to that. Just because some correlation exists between X and Y in a way that implies that X could be due to Y doesn't mean X cannot also be due to Z in other scenarios.

(March 11, 2022 at 8:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's just one psychological explanation with social consequences.

I think you need to be careful with the conclusions you personally derive from one study, especially when it comes to human psychology.

People need to be trained to analyze the outcomes of these studies. You don't just willy-nilly come up with your own interpretation that suits what you already believe to be true.

(March 11, 2022 at 8:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Please, please do not describe (or infer) me as being unsympathetic.  I weep (sometimes literally) for religious belief and faith.

How is weeping for beliefs sympathy?

Last item, first.  I sometimes cry, when I am sad, and sometimes the suffering in our World is too much to bear, and I succumb to my emotions and sob.  I do feel pity on children who die before their time, because, I know to a scientific certainty that they are gone, forever, and that absolutely nothing remains of their conscious experience, that which made them adorable little children.  I blame religion, more often than not, for its belief in a God and an afterlife, that posits the false notion that aspects of a human being's identity survives the death of that individual's brain.  If people understood, as do I, that the physical death of an individual (especially, a child) means that individual's annihilation, never to return, I believe that the war in Ukraine would not be occurring right now, and, overall, that there would be much less violence in the World today.  (Just my two cents.)  I weep, albeit distantly, with the parents who have lost their child, and have empathy for their need to believe that their little one has gone to Heaven, and that they will be reunited with their dead child someday, and I am not about to tell them otherwise, unless, of course, they come here of their own free will, in which case, we owe them the truth.

As for the first item, I am not a psychologist, anthropologist, archeologist, neurologist or sociologist, but, the evolution and psychology of religious belief has been well studied.  From our distant H. Sapiens ancestors some 75,000 years ago who worshiped the carved figure of a giant snake right up to the present, religious faith and belief serve individual, societal and political purposes.  We all can and should empathize with that; but, at the same time, religious faith and belief can be destructive, too destructive, in my opinion.  As such, belief in God needs to go, in my opinion, not only for the individual, but, especially, for the survival of our species.
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Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 9:33 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 10:36 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 11:02 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 11:45 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 11:10 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 11:14 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 12:09 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - September 1, 2021 at 12:51 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by brewer - September 1, 2021 at 12:19 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Ranjr - September 1, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Ranjr - September 1, 2021 at 2:36 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Ranjr - September 1, 2021 at 11:43 pm
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Silver - September 2, 2021 at 12:06 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Ranjr - September 2, 2021 at 12:27 am
RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience. - by Jehanne - March 12, 2022 at 1:29 am

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