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Why NATO doesn't give to Ukraine plan of membership?
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RE: Why NATO doesn't give to Ukraine plan of membership?
(April 19, 2022 at 3:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I predict that regardless of whether russia wins or loses (and, honestly, it's looking like loses right now..unless they come up with something different)...some people will blame biden.  Nothing to do with it, but whatever.  In fact, the people most likely to blame biden are also the people least likely to realize or acknowledge that attempting to extort zelinsky for political dirt in exchange for military aide signed some number of ukrainian death warrants.  

We don't all know that, btw, I think you probably reject that explicitly.  That the ends actually do justify the means or that actual history is actually written by the actual victors.

It’s hard to envision Russia winning. They could come up with something different, of course (go nuclear/chemical/biological, etc), but winning the fighting is not the same as winning the war. In a geopolitical sense, Putin has already lost the war. The weaknesses in Russia’s military have been exposed, the economy is cratered and about to get worse, Europe is more unified and anti-Russian than it has been in decades, and so on. 

If it’s true that war is the extension of politics by other means, then the metric that matters most in determining ‘winning’ is if you come out of a war stronger than you went into it. The longer Russia keeps this going, the weaker they’re going to be at the end of it.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Why NATO doesn't give to Ukraine plan of membership? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 19, 2022 at 6:45 pm

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