RE: Is there free will in heaven?
November 26, 2011 at 7:21 pm
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm by Mystic.)
(November 26, 2011 at 1:55 am)Rhythm Wrote: You're speaking as though A: heaven exists, and B: that it represents some sort of personal growth.
I thought this thread was about whether free-will is compatible with the Christian concept of heaven. I was arguing it is compatible, not whether such a heaven exists in the first place. From what I understand of christian perspective, it's a higher state of existence, and people were against this, because they stated they won't be whom they are if they lose their desires now. I said we changed desires from children, we outgrew them, yet I wouldn't say we lost our identity or free-will, so I don't see how losing desire for sex or evil, will mean we lost either our identity or free-will. We've changed since we were kids, and I don't see why we can't change later. Yeah I take it as growth because we become something higher then before, our conscious develops in a higher state, much like we outgrew our child identity. I don't have an issue with that. I personally don't know what will happen after death, how much our personality will change over time, I don't know. Whether there we will live in another imperfect world where you can also die and there is imperfection, and struggle and problems, and you have to work, and so on and so forth, or whether there will be a perfect world I don't know, I don't know what will happen after death. But I'm saying I don't see how we lose free-will in the Christian concept.