(April 24, 2022 at 1:38 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: I know you don't believe in spiritual laws, that doesn't stop atheists from stating how immoral vicarious redemption is. The point was is 'vicarious redemption' no more immoral than the practices you currently engage in.
Ah, a reverse tu quoque. Well done, Huggy.
Morality does not require spirituality. Morality is a social construct that does not require supernatural elements.
Christianity attempts to do an end run around community morality by elevating "Sorry, Jesus!" to a privileged position it never deserved. It's a one-size-fits-all escape hatch for undesirable behaviour, when the first step should be restitution to the actual victim of the misdeed, not declaration of "spiritual bankruptcy."
I am fully aware that animals get hurt when we have meat for supper. I try to mitigate this by eating less meat and by occasionally cooking meatless meals.
At least we gain something of real value from eating meat - energy to sustain our bodies - but the Jesus pseudo-sacrifice has no real benefits. It's just an "Aww, poor Jesus!" jerking-around of emotions, and in the final analysis it changes nothing at all. Believers die, just like non-believers, and although the believers think they're getting eternal life out of the deal I doubt that very, very much.
