Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 29, 2025, 5:32 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Did the Big Bang happen?
#10
RE: Did the Big Bang happen?
(April 27, 2022 at 4:38 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: Doesn’t getting something from nothing go against the whole “matter cannot be created or destroyed; only changed from one form or the other” though?

And how can anything even “happen” “before time”?

Those concepts are tripping me up.

It is likely that the amount of matter and kinetic energy is exactly balanced by the amount of negative gravitational potential energy.  That is, they add to zero. This isn't proven, but it is plausible based on current data (and is required by some theories).

As for "nothing happening before time" - we don't have a good definition of quantum time. Our current concept of time likely emerged with the universe. The arrow of time is tied to causality and increasing entropy. What if the early universe didn't have causality or a direction of time (the primordial quantum state fluctuated backward and forward in time).

The idea behind the Wheeler-DeWitt equation is that the wavefunction of the universe does not include time. It simply exists. It is literally timeless. It cannot gain energy - it can only show various forms (and an expression of time is one of those forms, though we really don't understand time).
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 3:55 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Deesse23 - April 27, 2022 at 4:00 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 4:08 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Deesse23 - April 27, 2022 at 4:25 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by HappySkeptic - April 27, 2022 at 4:33 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 27, 2022 at 6:34 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by vulcanlogician - April 27, 2022 at 4:16 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by HappySkeptic - April 27, 2022 at 4:17 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by vulcanlogician - April 27, 2022 at 4:34 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 4:38 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by HappySkeptic - April 27, 2022 at 4:42 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 4:47 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by HappySkeptic - April 27, 2022 at 4:56 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 27, 2022 at 6:52 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by HappySkeptic - April 27, 2022 at 7:23 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 28, 2022 at 8:28 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 28, 2022 at 10:28 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 28, 2022 at 11:22 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 28, 2022 at 11:37 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 28, 2022 at 3:18 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 28, 2022 at 3:23 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 28, 2022 at 3:35 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 28, 2022 at 4:04 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by zebo-the-fat - April 27, 2022 at 5:08 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Nay_Sayer - April 27, 2022 at 5:29 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 5:35 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Nay_Sayer - April 27, 2022 at 5:44 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 5:50 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 27, 2022 at 6:32 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 27, 2022 at 7:30 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Brian37 - April 27, 2022 at 7:54 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2022 at 10:11 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Brian37 - April 27, 2022 at 11:07 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 27, 2022 at 10:55 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 28, 2022 at 3:11 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Brian37 - April 28, 2022 at 7:55 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 28, 2022 at 9:47 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Mister Agenda - April 28, 2022 at 9:04 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - April 28, 2022 at 4:02 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - April 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2022 at 4:05 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by JairCrawford - April 28, 2022 at 5:19 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by The Grand Nudger - April 28, 2022 at 5:22 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by h311inac311 - May 18, 2022 at 5:50 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by popeyespappy - May 18, 2022 at 7:08 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Deesse23 - May 18, 2022 at 11:34 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - May 18, 2022 at 11:36 am
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by Jehanne - May 18, 2022 at 12:20 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by polymath257 - May 18, 2022 at 1:07 pm
RE: Did the Big Bang happen? - by highdimensionman - May 18, 2022 at 12:41 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Just When I Thought I Understood the Big Bang Rhondazvous 19 3876 January 23, 2018 at 7:09 pm
Last Post: polymath257
  If the Universe Collapses Because of a False Vacuum, Won't There Just be Another Big Rhondazvous 11 3351 November 8, 2017 at 10:22 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Big Bang and QM bennyboy 1 834 September 10, 2017 at 4:17 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  How big is the universe? Rhondazvous 77 16908 August 1, 2017 at 12:03 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  Teaching the Big bang theory to Preschoolers GeorgiasTelescope 5 2075 June 24, 2017 at 6:22 pm
Last Post: Fidel_Castronaut
  I wrote the first book to teach the Big Bang theory to Preschoolers! GeorgiasTelescope 0 833 June 12, 2017 at 10:17 pm
Last Post: GeorgiasTelescope
  Leap second to happen today. Jehanne 20 3388 December 31, 2016 at 8:30 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  The Science of the Big Bang RiddledWithFear 13 3291 December 7, 2016 at 10:47 am
Last Post: FatAndFaithless
Smile "Science of the Big Bang" Rough Draft and Secondary Draft RiddledWithFear 4 2258 December 6, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Last Post: RiddledWithFear
  Is there a "Science of the Big Bang" thread on Here? RiddledWithFear 30 6386 December 6, 2016 at 6:21 am
Last Post: Alex K



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)